[gothic-l] Re: Christianisation of Crimean Goths

dirk at SMRA.CO.UK dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Thu Jun 21 07:48:56 UTC 2001


--- In gothic-l at y..., Tore Gannholm <tore.gannholm at s...> wrote:
> Dirk,
> I found the following about the Goths in the Crimea:
> 
> AA Vasiliev, The Goths in the Crimea. Mediaeval academy of America,
> Publication N:o 25, Cambridge Mass. 1936




Hi Tore,

thanks a lot for the quote from Vasiliev, that is very helpful. I may 
have a chance to check Aleksandr Aibabin's book on ethnic history of 
the Crimean tonight. His book is quite recent (1999) and should give 
some indication about the state of research in that question.

cheers

Dirk


> 
> page 3. By the middle of the third century A.D. the Goths had 
migrated from
> the shores of the Baltic Sea and settled in the territory known 
today as
> Southern Russia, particularly along the northern and western shores 
of the
> Black Sea. As a natural result, they penetrated into the Tauric 
peninsula,
> where at that time the Bosporan Kingdom was predominant. The Goths
> established their suzerainty over the greater part of that kingdom 
and took
> possession of its fleet, an important economic achievement. With the 
fleet
> they carried out several bold and far-reaching sea raids. These 
raids. as
> well as those of their compatriots from the mouths of the Dniepr and 
the
> Dniester, not only terrorized the eastern, western, and southern 
shores of
> the Black Sea, but were even felt on the coast of the Propontis (the 
Sea of
> Marmora), and in the islands and on the coasts of the Aegean and
> Mediterranean.
> The original source for information concerning Gothic raids and 
invasions
> before Constantine the Great, and the foundation of all subsequent 
sources,
> is the works of a contemporary Athenian, Herennius Dexippus, whom 
Photius
> calls a second Thucydides; most unfortunately this source has not 
come down
> to us. In the twelve books of his Chronicle Dexippus gave a brief
> chronological account of events down to the reign of Emperor 
Claudius
> Gothicus (268-270). His Scythian History described the struggle of 
the
> Romans with the peoples north of the lower Danube and along the 
northern
> shore of the Euxine, especially the Goths; as far as we can judge 
from the
> fragments which have reached us, this covered the years from 238 to 
271.
> Dexippus was largely used by the so-called Scriptores historiae 
Augustae,
> whose compilation is now attributed by most scholars to the fourth 
century,
> as well as by Zosimus, an historian of the fifth century, and by 
George
> Syncellus, a chronicler of the ninth century.
> Tore
> 
> >Dear Andreas,
> >
> >thanks for all the links. Unfortunately, so far I could not get 
them
> >to work but will try to find the literature.
> >
> >Aleksandr Aibabin (Simfereopol) wrote in 'Sto Let Chernyakhovskogo
> >Cultura' (I only have a bad copy in Russian with an incomplete
> >reference):
> >
> >Aibabin said that the Germanic settlement of the Crimean at the end 
of
> >the first half of the 3rd century significantly changed the
> >ethno-political make-up of the Crimean peninsula. ..... Germanic
> >tribesmen pushed into the Crimean after Roman garrisons started to
> >withdraw in the 240s AD to bolster the Danubian frontier, thus
> >benefitting from the Roman withdrawal
> >
> >.... In the middle of the 3rd century the new cemetaries of 
Chatirdg,
> >Ai-todor, Partenit and Chernaya reka start, which are closely
> >associated with the Germanic settlement on the Crimean peninsula. 
....
> >
> >
> >Also, an author Igor Pioro "O Chernyakhovskoi kulturi na krimu" 
wrote
> >in 2000 that
> >
> >"... Germanic urn and incremation burrials on Crimean start in the
> >middle of the 3rd century AD. These can be found in the graveyards 
of
> >Sovkhos Sevastopolskii, Chernaya reka, Belbek I, in the oblast' of
> >Chersones and Ai-Todor, as well as Chatirdag and several others.
> >....In these Chernyakov-type cemetaries all characteristics of the
> >general incremation practice is presnent which reflects traditions 
of
> >the Wielbark as well as the Przeworsk cultures.....
> >
> >The distribution of the mid-3rd century Chernyakov-type cemetaries 
on
> >the Crimean together with documentary evidence and the fact that 
the
> >Germanic language was attested into the 15th (sic!) century, 
supports
> >the thesis that the Chernyakovsk-type graves should be attibuted to
> >Germanic settlers. .....
> >
> >
> >(all my translations)
> >
> >
> >cheers,
> >
> >Dirk
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In gothic-l at y..., andreas.schwarcz at u... wrote:
> >> Dear Dirk;
> >> Here is my reference:
> >>
> >> {HYPERLINK
> 
>"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/SCAN-ACC-X/060877
4
> >4"}Gomolka-Fuchs, Gudrun [Hrsg.] {HYPERLINK
> 
>"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/SCAN-ACC-X/009061
0
> >7"}1.Körperschaft
> >> {HYPERLINK
> 
>"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/FIND-ACC/00906107
"
> >}Deutsches Archäologisches Institut <Berlin> / Römisch-Germanische
> >> Kommission {HYPERLINK
> 
>"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/SCAN-ACC-X/060877
4
> >5"}Die Sîntana de Mures-Cernjachov-Kultur. Akten des
> >> internationalen Kolloquiums in Caputh vom 20. bis 24. Oktober 
1995.
> >> Römisch-Germanische Kommission, Eurasien-Abteilung. Hrsg. von
> >> Gudrun Gomolka-Fuchs.  Bonn {HYPERLINK
> 
>"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/SCAN-ACC-X/001332
1
> >7"}Verlag {HYPERLINK
> 
>"http://aleph.univie.ac.at:4505/ALEPH/RANDOM5042965/FIND-ACC/00133217
"
> >}Habelt Jahr 1999,
> >>
> >> especially the article of Karl von der Lohe on the Crimea. 
Alexandr
> >> Aibabin and a lot of other archeologists from Russia, Moldavia 
and
> >> Ucraina were also there and agreed with von der Lohe on the 
subject.
> >I
> >> was there, too, and discussed the theme with them.
> >> If Aibabin published anything disagreeing with the results of 
this
> >> conference, I should like to have the reference.
> >> Kind regards,
> >>         Andreas
> >>
> >> ao.Univ.Prof.Dr.Andreas Schwarcz
> >> Institut fuer oesterreichische Geschichtsforschung
> >> Universitaet Wien
> >> Dr.Karl-Lueger-Ring 1
> >> A 1010 Wien
> >> Oesterreich
> >> tel.0043/1/42-77/272-16
> >> fax 0043/1/42-77/92-72
> >> email andreas.schwarcz at u...
> >
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