[gothic-l] Re: Gothic and Gotlandic Sailing

[faltin2001]

--- In gothic-l at y..., Tore Gannholm <tore.gannholm at s...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >Dear Paul,
> >
> >I have really no objection to an use of sails at this time. 
However,
> >from the outline by Soren above, there seems to be no evidence for
> >the use of sails so far. Thus, given that this stone, which experts
> >date to the 9th century shows a sailing ship as well, I would be
> >cautious to redate it to the early 6th century on the basis of a
> >supposedly Phrygian cap on the head of the horseman. I just think
> >that making this horseman into an Arian Goths in Sweden would be 
one
> >sensational interpretation, but since this requires also to accept
> >another sensational interpretation, namely a sailing ship anno 
domini
> >500+AD is too much to ask.
> >
> >cheers,
> >Dirk 
> >
> 
> 
> Dirk,
> 
> You are really mixing things up.
> 
> The 9th century stone is a runestone with pictures from 
Västergötland.
> 
> The 6th century stone from Gotland with boat with sails is a 
picture 
> stone which are almost only known in Gotland. We have a couple of 
> hundred of them (more than 425). I can't remember any picture 
stones 
> known in Sweden.
> 
> Perhaps you have never seen a picture stone.




Tore, 

we were talking about the Sparloesa rune stone and this stone alone, 
which Ingemar said should be redated to the early 6th century because 
a horseman on the stone wears a Phrygian cap, while I said the ship 
on the stone is better placed in the 9th century.

See the attached picture of the stone.

http://home.no.net/ahruner/se-rune-sparloesa.jpg

Dirk 









> 
> have a look at
> 
> http://www.gotmus.i.se/museibut/motiv/motiv.htm
> 
> 
http://www.gotmus.i.se/fornsalen/bildstenar/bilder/bild_hunninge_klint
e_a1.jpg
> 
> Tore
> --


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