[gothic-l] Re: Arianism

faltin2001 dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Thu Jul 3 13:29:08 UTC 2003


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Tore Gannholm <tore.gannholm at s...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >Tore,
> >
> >nice collection. I had a brief look, however, some comments at the
> >end where somebody talks of Arianism in Vaestegoetaland in 500AD
can
> >hardly be taken seriously. But I think we had this debate before.
> >
> >Dirk
> >
>
> Dirk,
> Yes we have discussed this before and I know that you don't have
very
> high thoughts about Swedish archaeology. Fortunately there are
others
> on this list who can read Scandinavian and are better acquainted
with
> this important area.
>
> Admittedly sometimes archaeologists over-interpret their findings.
> However I think Gotland and some parts of Sweden have a much richer
> early iron age history than you would like to admit.
> Tore
>


Tore

I never denied that Gotland and Sweden have a rich early iron age
history. Yet, about the early iron age history of Gotland and Sweden
we know practically nothing. The early iron age starts in those areas
in around 500BC, and no historical sources are available to shed
light on historical events there at that early time.

About Arianism, I have not seen any evidence for the presence of
Arianism in 6th century Sweden. Since you read Swedish, I would like
to ask you to present this evidence.

I suppose the first step would be to demonstrate that there were
Christian grave yards in Sweden in 500AD and the second step would be
to show that these were Arian Christians. If any grave with
tentatively Christian lay-out dated to post 550AD it would -following
Brigit Arrhenius- be better regarded as Catholic, since Scandinavian
contacts shifted toward the Frankish realm at that point.
Alternatively, 6th century authors like Procopius, who took a great
interest in Thule, would surely have reported the presence of
Christians, even if they were Arians there. Yet, it is clear that he
regarded them as pagans.

Dirk






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