[gothic-l] Re: du usfilhan ana gastim

[Lucia Sinisi]

Hi, Llama!
Sorry for my late reply! 
Durante considers DU USFILHAN as active and ANA refers to GASTIM,  with a prepositional funtion. According to him Wulfila doesn't use the accusative, which is the normal case for the verb usfilhan, because it would imply that the action is directly done by the sacerdos. He also compares Mt. 27,7 with T 4,3, which shows  a similar construction. 

Lucia

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: llama_nom 
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  Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:34 AM
  Subject: [gothic-l] Re: du usfilhan ana gastim




  Hi Lucia,

  Interesting.  Have you read this article or do you know what 
  Durante's opinion was about the phrase?  E.g. whether DU USFILHAN is 
  passive, and whether ANA refers to the field or to GASTIM?

  Llama Nom




  --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Lucia Sinisi" <luciasinisi at y...> 
  wrote:
  > 
  > there is an article dedicated to the construction of this phrase  
  by E. Durante, unfortunately in italian: 
  > E. Durante, "'Du usfilhan ana gastim'. La funzione di 'ana' e il 
  costrutto 'du' con l'infinito in gotico, Biblioteca di Ricerche 
  Linguistiche e Filologiche, Roma: Il Calamo, 1974, 40 pp.
  > 
  > Lucia S.
  > 
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: Grsartor at a... 
  >   To: gothic-l at yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 8:03 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [gothic-l] Salo Test -- further thoughts & was 
  Wulfila one person??
  > 
  > 
  >   About the Gothic phrase
  > 
  >       du usfilhan ana gastim
  > 
  >   which translates the Greek
  > 
  >       eis taphén tois xenois:
  > 
  >   How is the Gothic to be construed? The Greek seems to be "into 
  (i.e. for the 
  >   purpose of) burial for strangers", though my Greek is too ropy 
  for me to 
  >   pronounce confidently on this. The Revised Standard Version of 
  Matthew has "to bury 
  >   strangers in". To make the Gothic match the Greek, the 
  infinitive could be 
  >   taken as passive, since Gothic sometimes uses the active 
  infinitive in this way; 
  >   e.g. Matthew 6:1 "du saihwan im" = to be seen by them. If  in 
  addition the 
  >   use of "ana" here is taken to be adverbial, the sense is "for 
  strangers to be 
  >   buried on". 
  > 
  >   As for the list of dative verbs that llama_nom provided 
  recently, "gahwotjan" 
  >   (= rebuke, threaten) could be added.
  > 
  >   Gerry T.
  > 
  > 
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