[gothic-l] Re: about 'himma daga'.

[Francisc Czobor]

Hi, Fredrik

According to Koebler's Woerterbuch 
(http://www.koeblergerhard.de/germanistischewoerterbuecher/gotischeswo
erterbuch/GOT-H.pdf), the pronominal root is hi- (from IE root ko-, 
ke-, kei-, ki-, kijo-, kjo-), the meaning being "this, of here and 
now, the present, this here". The attested forms are:
hita (neuter sg., Nom.&Ac.)
hina (masc. sg., Ac.)
himma (masc.& neuter sg., Dat.)
These forms appear in expressions like:
fram himma (nu) = from now on
himma daga = today
und hina daga = unto this day, until today
und hita = until now
The unattested nominative sg. masc. would be *his, and the genitive 
sg. probably also *his.
Indeed, it is cognate with OHG hiu- in hiu-tagu "heute (today)", OE 
héo- etc.

Francisc
 


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Fredrik" <gadrauhts at h...> wrote:
> 
> Himma daga, today, is dative. The accusative form does also occure 
as 
> hina dag, right? The meaning of this ain't know for me, but i've 
seen 
> it. Does the genitive and nominative form excist? Even though it 
> hasn't been recorded, how would they be? I know the word for day is 
> dags, and dagis, but how would himma be in the other cases?
> 
> I also thought about the relation to other germaic languages.
> The german word heute and the anglosaxon héodæg both has the prefix 
> héo- and hiu- plus the word for day. The swedish word for today 
> is 'idag', could this probably come from older 'hidager'? (the 
> suffix -er is nominative).
> 
> If this is right, can this prefix be related to the gothic word 
> himma, and whatever it is in nominative?





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