Tyringi and Tervingi

[faltin2001]

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> Hi Dirk!
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> I can add to Tyrna and Trnava also Veliko Tyrnovo in Bulgaria. The 
last item is interesting from two points of view.
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> First, the vowel _y_ has nothing common with _e_. Originally it 
was either a hard counterpart of _i_ or its specific Slavic short 
version.
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> Second, the attribute "velik-" appears often as a Slavic 
comprehension of an original "Welh" meaning "Celtic". In conjunction 
with the fact that both Tyrna and Trnava are disposed on the 
territory of historical Bohemia, I'd search the origins of the 
toponyms in question in the Celtic language.


Hi Vladimir,

you will probably know that Velik-/veliki is Slavic and 
means 'big/great'. It can indeed often be found in placenames, just 
as its pendent maliki, which means small. Thus, Veliko Tyrnovo means 
Great Tyrnovo (Velikaya Britannya is Great Britain) and I am quite 
certaint that this has nothing to do with Welh-. 

Cheers,

Dirk 






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