can someone correct my grammar

[llama_nom]

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "ualarauans" <ualarauans at ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Aaron,
> 
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "brynhild84" <AaronCarpenter@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Can someone look at the grammar for this first part of a story 
> that I
> > have written in Gothic?
> > Thanks.
> 
> I'll try but you better add your English translation next time so 
> that we could be sure what you mean.
> 
> > Sai farra, thiudan unsara farith finthith hozd, skalks is gibith 
> aiths
> > is hilpith thiudan is.
> 
> If this was intended to mean roughly: "behold ... (what 
> is `farra'?), our king is going to find a treasure, his servant 
> swears an oath to help his king", then I'd have it thus:
> 
> Sai, þiudans (nom. sg.) unsar (masc. nom. sg.) fariþ (just "goes", 
> not "is going" in the sense "intends") finþan (infinitive)


'finthan' "to discover" (information), "to learn".  I think 'bigitan'
"find" fits better.  For the idiom 'gaggan' + infintive, cf. L 19:12:
'manna sums godakunds gaggida landis franiman sis þiudangardja'.  Or
alternatively, the subjunctive could be used: "gaggith, ei huzd bigitai".


> huzd, 
> skalks is gibiþ aiþ (acc. sg.) hilpan (infinitive) thiudanis (gen. 
> sg.) is.
> 
> > Agar eis farand weis saiand akran jah itand milith, hlaits ja 
> swein.
> > Afar 80 dagos barn meina saihwan thiudans skip jah qith: "thiudan
> > afraqimith!"
> 
> What is `agar'?


A typo for 'afar' perhaps?


> Maybe miþþanei "while"? Miþþanei farand saiam ("we 
> sow") akran jah itam ("we eat") miliþ, ... (what is `hlaits'? 
> Maybe `hlaif' acc. sg.?) jah swein. Afar 80 dagans (acc. pl.) 
> saihviþ ("sees") barn mein (neuter nom. sg.) þiudanis (gen. sg.) 
> skip jah qiþiþ ("speaks"): þiudans (nom. sg.) aftraqimiþ!


We need genitive plural 'dage' after 80 (ahtau tiguns).  'aftra
qimith' / 'qimith aftra': such adverbial particles often appear after
the verb in main clauses, where there's no Greek model, but it's not
an absolute rule.  An alternative: gawandeith sik.


> ("I will 
> kill", your `ik wil kill' betrays that the king speaks English!) 

I guess we can excuse him this one time though; it's obviously an
emotional moment ;-)

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