New file uploaded to gothic-l (Christmas and Yule)

[llama_nom]

Here's some chaotic notes I made on the subject of reconstructing the
Gothic calendar a couple of years ago after a discussion here.  The
page displays best in Internet Explorer for some reason.

http://www.oe.eclipse.co.uk/nom/calendar.htm

There are some interesting month names in Danish, Norwegian and
Swedish we ought to look at too, e.g. Danish Glugmånad, Blide-, Tor-,
Fare-, Maj-, Høj-, Orme-, Høst-, Fiske-, Sæde-, Slagte-, Jule-.  Do
you have a list of Swedish months, Ingemar?  Ignore the speculations
based on the supposed *Naubaimbair, obviously...



--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "ualarauans" <ualarauans at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell@> wrote:
> >
> > Many thanks for this Arthur.  I read it ages ago, but had 
> completely
> > forgotten that detail about the phantom status of *Naubaimbair!
> > 
> > http://www.modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~david/index.html
> > http://www.modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~david/report.pdf
> > 
> > The relevant section is on p. 54.  Which leaves us with just 'fruma
> > jiuleis' as the name of the month, and no way of knowing whether 
> the
> > illegible word was a synonym (*Naubaimbair or otherwise) or 
> something
> > else entirely.
> 
> But if Naubaimbair is a fancy, what's worth our reconstruction of 
> the Gothic month names based on Latin? If only fruma jiuleis is 
> attested, then one could logically suppose that all other Gothic 
> month names were also Germanic. Afaik there were several Calender 
> traditions in Germania, with their own month names. Which of them 
> are we to follow? E.g. OHG and OE give only one match which could 
> speak for Go. Austramenoþs "April".
> 
> Ualarauans
> 
> > Re. alternative names, I just came across the following Old West 
> Norse
> > and Old Swedish proposals: Dróttins burðar tíð; gudz födzlo hötidh 
> [
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julfest ], neither of which caught on.
> > So maybe we could have: 'fraujins mel gabaurþais', or similar.  
> Bit of
> > a mouthful, I know...  Thinks: does the final vowel in 
> Finnish 'juhla'
> > and 'joula' imply a specifically East Germanic origin for the
> > loanword, as opposed to Proto Germanic -o or Proto Nordic -u?  If 
> so,
> > we have a nice piece of evidence for the survival of both versions 
> in
> > East Germanic: *jaihvla and *jiula.
>


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