Hallo hallo!

[Ingemar Nordgren]

Hi Johann!

It is as far I can see not a question of definite article but just a 
clarification of what yoy mean with the shepher, which shepherd. 

Hardeis is like Sw. herden already in definite form (herde,-n) since 
it comes in the end, not in front. The good, den gode tells just 
which shepherd, herde. In Sw. accordingly 'herden-den gode'or 'den 
gode herden', but indefinite it is 'en god herde', 'a good shepherd'.
This is a great similarity between Gothic and Scandinavian languages.

>From a non linguist
Ingemar


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Johann von Messer" 
<furry_von_messer at ...> wrote:
>
> Also, can someone please explain to me the very weird (to me)
> placements of definite articles? In one of my books is the 
dedication
> "Qenai meinai þizai liuboston" which is obviously "To my dearest
> wife." But that is the definite article doing in there, yet no
> preposition? I have seen this is a few other places such as
> 
> Ahma sa weiha - The Holy Spirit
> Hardeis sa goða - the good shepherd
> "...ibai aufto distairai wein þata niujo þans balgins." - "...lest
> perchance the new wine burst the bottles."
> 
> 
> There's also this that I have trouble grasping from Mark 4:5
> "anþaruþþan gadraus ana stainahamma, þarei ni haibada airþa managa,
> jah suns urrann in þizei ni haibada diupaizos airþos"
> "And another fell on a stony place, where there was not much soil, 
and
> soon rose up because of not having depth of earth."
> (("and another fell on stony place, where not had soil much, and 
soon
> rose up because not had deep of soil")) Why is airþa in the genitive
> at the end? Is it because of the phrase 'in þizei?' And if so, why
> does 'in' make the article genitive?
> 
> Also, I'm thinking about translating a Christmas song or two, just 
for
> the hell of it. Should I do the translated, traditional English
> version of Silent Night or the original 1816 German lyrics?
>


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