Getica 129-130

[ualarauans]

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "ualarauans" <ualarauans at ...> 
wrote:
> >
> > Sonahildja [...] Sar (Sarws) jah Ama (Hamaþius)
> 
> Here are some notes on names that I made a while ago with tentative
> reconstructions of full-names and various hypocoristic shortenings.
> Unfortunately I didn't include references, but I *think* the
> suggestion that initial /h/ was lost in the second elements of
> compounds, along with the joining-vowel, came from a paper by 
Bennett.
> I could be mistaken about that though. The details about the name
> recorded in German charters comes from R. W. Chambers, Widsith: A
> Study in Old English Heroic Tradition (Cambridge, 1912).
> 
> *Sunjahildi, fjo. Jord. Sunilda; as Suanailt with other names from
> Ermenric story in Charter from Germany, 786; names used in Germany:
> Sonhild, Swanhild; OIc. Svanhildr, due to borrowing from a German
> source with ua < û?; compare Go. Sunjaifriþas; Go. names in Lat.
> Sunie-, very common; Go. sunja `truth'; for loss of -a- in short
> ja-stems as first element of compound names, cf. Agiulfus; and 
perhaps
> also with loss of /h/ in second element of compound, cf. Go. 
gudhus,
> freijhals, faurhah (=faurahah), manaulja (for *mana-hulja?), and 
the
> name *Neiþada (for *Neiþa-haidus?, cf. OIc. Níðuðr, gen. Níðaðar; 
OE
> Nîþhâd).

I had in mind to consult our archives for I remembered that we (wit) 
touched upon this when discussing the Drus but have not had an extra-
minute for that (terribel Inglish hear, I no))). But thank you for 
bringing this again. I find your suggestion quite plausible. So, 
Sunjahildi be it.

BTW, do you have any idea of Ovida? Anything to do with haubiþ?

> *Sarus, *Sarila, *Sarula, man. Jord. Sarus; Wz. Sarilo; OIc. Sörli;
> Lat. Sarus, a Gothic warlord; Go. sarwa, na.pl. `armour'.

If true, it should be *Sarws, no? And diminutive - *Sarwila?

> *Hamaþius, mwa., *Hamiþeis, mja., *Hamiþa, man., *Hamjis, mja. 
Jord.
> Ammius; Wz. Hamido; OIc. Hamðir; Go. ga-hamon `put on, dress 
oneself
> in'; OIc. hamr (gen. -s, pl. -ir) `skin, outward shape', OE homa, 
OHG
> hamo `skin, clothes', OHG hemidi `clothing, long undershirt', 
OFries.
> hemethe, OE hemeþ.

Right. I meant a posible Iranian etymology, ama "powerful" (I'm not 
sure about this, just saw it somewhere), and sar "head". But in the 
saga (and what Jordanes is retelling here was already a saga among 
the Goths) the names, if not originally Germanic, must have been 
already Germanized.

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