[gothic-l] Jiddish

[Dicentis a roellingua@gmail.com [gothic-l]]

Hi Tore,

A few citations of books is not proof of your claim, can you please cite
parts out of these books which support your claim?

Also, I will make a comparison between some Yiddish basic vocabulary and
Turkish vocabulary here, Torre please explain why these differences are
here if your theory is correct:

(די פֿראַגע(ס*    di frage(s)* – question(s)    Turkish for question is
*soru*
(דאָס בוך (ביכער*    dos bukh (bikher)* – book  Turkish for book is a loan
from Arabic *kitap*, and the word for to write is *yazmak*, doesn't look
like bukh at all
(דער טיש(ן*    der tish(n)* – table    Turkish for table is *tablo*
(דער מענטש(ן*    der mentsh(n)* – person   Turkish loan from Arabic is
*insan*, another word is *adam*, a native Turkish word is *kişi*, please
explain why mentsh and kishi are similar
צום בײַשפּיל *    tsum bayshpil* – for example   looks like German zum
Beispiel and not like Turkish *mesele*
?װאָס איז דאָס*    vos iz dos?* – what is this?     Turkish would be
something like *nedir?* German would be:  Was ist das?
. . .דאָס איז*     dos iz… *– this is…    Turkish would be:   noun + -*dir*,
German would be   das ist...
(די שטול(ן*     di shtul(n)* – chair    Turkish is *sandalye*, German is
Stuhl
(דער מאַן (מענער *    der man (mener)* – man      Turkish is *adam*, but
this word looks like German and Dutch Mann/man and Dutch meneer and German
Mein Herr
(די פֿרױ(ען*    di froy(en)* – woman    Turkish is *bayan*, German is Frau.
(דאָס מײדל(עך*    dos meydl(ekh)* – girl   Turkish is *kız*, German is
Mädchen
(דער קאָפּ (קעפּ*    der kop (kep)* – head    Turkish is *kafa*

Out of 12 comparisons there is just 1 word, head, which looks a bit similar
to Yiddish but which is most likely a coincidence or a loan.

Torre, how can the core vocabulary of a language with words like *person*
and *question *change so much from it's, what you say is, a Turkish source
language?





2015-02-15 11:38 GMT+01:00 Tore Gannholm tore at gannholm.org [gothic-l] <
gothic-l at yahoogroups.com>:

>
>
> Hi,
>
>  Brook, Kevin Alan, The Jews of Khazaria, 2009
>
>  Dunlop, D.M., The history of the Jewish Khazars, 1954
>
>  Koestler, Arthur, Den trettonde stammen, 1992
>    The Thirteenth Tribe: The Kazar Empire and Its Heritage Paperback –
> June, 1978
> by Arthur Koestler
> <http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1?ie=UTF8&field-author=Arthur+Koestler&search-alias=books&text=Arthur+Koestler&sort=relevancerank>
>  (Author)
>
> According to the Exhibitions in the
> Museum in Oskar Schindler’s Factory in Krakow
> the Germans had not come across the Yiddish language until they invaded
> Poland and realised that the Polish jews spoke another language than the
> jews in Germany
>
>
> Tore
>
>
>
>  On 14 Feb 2015, at 19:43, write2andy at yahoo.com [gothic-l] <
> gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> "There is no question"? I'm guessing you know 0% of the Yiddish language.
> Show me where you found that there is "no question" that Yiddish is Turkic,
> or could possible have any Turkic influence at all. I know Yiddish, not
> fluently but I know a large portion of it (probably 30% to 50%) and not
> once have I seen any Turkic words in it. Not just the core vocabulary, but
> loan words, too. I haven't seen even one. If you can come up with at least
> one, or hopefully more, especially ones that clearly aren't later loan
> words, please, do show me them.
>
> And it's spelled "Yiddish", with a "Y".
>
> And there's no way Yiddish grew out of Gothic.
>
>
>  
>
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