Lost for words (fwd article)

[Jesse Gaskell]

Then use the information about the phonology to prove the negative
effects upon the language through recording the dialects, not just as
Aboriginal English. Assess the damage to both languages. View the new
phonological system that is neither Guugu Yimidhirr or English in a new
light. Languages die, and languages are revilatalized, but what are the
majority of the speakers using? A combination that is neither one or the
other. Age old dialectic arguments for the dialects of a pure language
is different from assessing the effects that the English language had on
the native tongues. In affect, the Aboriginal English of Guugu Yimidhirr
is this end product? Just over-simplify the variations and factors for a
minute and turn English back around on itself.


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Sandra, I don't understand what you're proposing. We have heaps of 
information about the phonology of Guugu Yimidhirr, we don't need to 
reconstruct it from Aboriginal English (which is itself a very 
complicated system to describe since it is subject to a great deal of 
variation dependent on many different factors).
Claire

Jesse Gaskell wrote:
> Has anyone begun recording the GuuguYimithirr-English Dialect of the 
> Australian English (or any language for that matter) to try to bring 
> this language back? (read Dr. Julia Roberts and her work on Vermont 
> dialects)In order to be slated as a dialect, the educational system 
> would need to recognize the original language and it's effects upon 
> the current generational usage of the English-Australian language. 
> This could bring funding back to the younger generation and promote 
> the recognition of the ancient phonological system ???? I agree it is 
> so downtrodden a feeling- and a lonely place for the Elders today- 
> just a thought about revitalization from a compromising position in 
> today's world-and a way to motivate the younger people to participate.
> 
> Sandra Gaskell, RPA, MA
> 
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> 
> Lost for words: The lonely fight to save our dying languages by John 
> Van Tiggelen
> 
> ...reporting on the situation regarding the indigenous languages of 
> Cape York Pennisula.
> 
> Weekend, The Sydney Morning Herald Magazine
> Sept 10, 2005
> 
> 
> [note: thanks to Bruce Rigsby, University of Queensland for kindly 
> sharing this article.  phil cash cash]
>