Fwd: 17.552, Media: 6500-year-old voices recorded in pottery!

Mia Kalish MiaKalish at LEARNINGFORPEOPLE.US
Mon Feb 20 18:50:45 UTC 2006


I suppose some enterprising grad student could try it. . . :-) Wouldn't that
make an interesting semester project!

 

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From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Sophia Stevenson
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [ILAT] Fwd: 17.552, Media: 6500-year-old voices recorded in
pottery!

 

It's not the recording that's in French, it's the video discussing the find
that's in French... The recording played in the video is supposedly in
Latin, from a vase fired in Pompeii.

 

Having taken a few years of Latin, and after hearing that recording, I find
this quite hard to believe. But if that isn't enough, the method of
recording using a stylus wasn't used until 1877, when Edison recorded "Mary
Had a Little Lamb." And I'm pretty sure he didn't use pottery... (I believe
it was tinfoil, actually.) The chances that somebody's vocal vibrations
passed into the instrument used to decorate the pottery, and that these
vibrations survived through any type of glazing (as was the custom of the
period), are incredibly slim.

 

Still, it's a neat concept! Makes a good story too...

 

Sophia Stevenson

University of Quebec At Montreal

Mia Kalish <MiaKalish at LEARNINGFORPEOPLE.US> wrote:

Actually, I think the article references the process of early recording,
where a stylus like device vibrated and made little holes or dents in the
recording medium. So it's the same principle. Now, whether it's "French" is
really a stretch. English, which I know a bit about, has changed a lot I the
few thousand years we have been watching it. "French" would have had to
change a great deal more in 6,500. 

Mia

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From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
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Subject: Re: [ILAT] Fwd: 17.552, Media: 6500-year-old voices recorded in
pottery!

Boy, this is a tough one to believe, although who knows...it's a 
captivatin g possibility!

At 11:29 AM 2/20/2006, you wrote:
>I'm not sure how much I believe this, but it is certainly interesting. 
>(The pottery is from South America.)
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>Barbara Need
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>>From: Mike Matloff < michelhoo at yahoo.com >
>>Subject: 6500-year-old voices recorded in pottery!
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>>Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:35:55
>>From: Mike Matloff < michelhoo at yahoo.com >
>>Subject: 6500-year-old voices recorded in pottery!
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>>Description from The Raw Feed (http://www.therawfeed.com):
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>>'Belgian researchers have been able to use computer scans of the grooves
in
>>6,500-year-old pottery to extract sounds -- including talking and laughter
>>-- made by the vibrations of the tools used to make the pottery.'
>>
>>Here's the link to the video:
>>http://www.zalea.org/article.php3?id_article=496
>>
>>It's only available in French right now, but even if you don't speak
French
>>I think you can get the general gist and hear the 'playback'!
>>
>>Mike
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