[Lexicog] Field research based dictionaries

[Hayim Sheynin]

Uvazhaemaia Masha,

 

Vy zadali tak mnogo voprosov, chto ia ne znaiu gde nachat’ i gde konchit’.

 

Ia mogu dat’ vam neskol’ko sovetov.

 

1)       MS – ne samoe luchshee reshenie dlia vashego slovaria.

2)       Vy mozhete poluchit’ informatsiiu o raznyx elektronnyx

leksikographicheskix programmax 

on web site http://www.sil.org/ 

3)       Eta organizatsiia imeet spisok raznyx elektronnyx

leksikographicheskix program (takix kak Shoebox, Toolbox, Lingua Links,

Field Works i podobnoe. Eti programmy sozdany spetsial’no dlia

leksikografov. Oni the tol’ko pozvoliaiut derzhat’ slovar’ v organizovannom

vide i pol’zovat’sia im na kompiutore, no takzhe daiut vozmozhnost’

opublikovat’ vash slovar’ na w.w.w. ili podgotovit’ rukopis’ (typescript) k pechati po trebovaniiam izdatelia. 

4)       Ia ne znaiu spetsialnyx rabot o sozdanii alfavitov. Moia tochka otpravleniia, znanie

lingvistiki I filologii. Snachala vy dolzhny podgotovit’ spisok fonem. Zatem vy dolzny reshit’

kakuiu graficheskuiu sistemu vziat’ za osnovu. Esli chislo fonem prevosxodit chislo bukv

latinskogo alfavita, vy mozhete vybrat’ kirillitsu. 

Reshenie o graficheskoi baze mozhet byt’ sviazano takzhe s religiei etogo naroda.

Esli oni xristianizirovany, kirillitsa mozhet byt’ bolee podxodiastchei.

Shwa mozhet byt’ izobrazheno perevernutym e ə (esli ono imeet ottenok e), ono moshet byt’ Izobrazheno latinskim i, no bez tochki ı kak v tiurskikh iazykax (esli ono imeet ottenok

i tverdogo) Esli vashe shwa imeet bol’shee kolichestvo variantov, vy budete dolzhny vvesti

glasnye s diakritikami. Vy mozhete proverith tablitsu Unicode characters in Insert>Symbol

menue of Microsoft Word.

 

Rad byt’ k vashim uslugam,

 

Dr. Hayim Y. Sheynin

Adjunct Professor

Gratz College

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Masha Brykina [mailto:marik_bryk at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:03 PM
To: lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Lexicog] Field research based dictionaries

 

Hello all,

I am a new member of this group and would like to ask for help. I am involved in a project aimed to make a Besermyan-Russian dictionary (Besermyan is considered to be one of dialects of Udmurt - a Finno-Ugric language). This dictionary will be based on field research. Until now we’ve collected over 3000 basic lexemes with some examples, which we have organized in a database made in Microsoft Access. During our work we were confronted with certain problems and would like to learn more about these points (perhaps you could provide some references):

1)      Whether anyone has experience using MS Access for such goals.

2)      What are the basic principles of separating meanings of the word

3)      How one should deal with loan words (there are lots of words from Russian more or less phonetically assimilated (for example, the names of the months – russian ones are wide-spread and the original ones are remembered only by several aged speakers)).

4)      Whether there are any works on principles of making alphabets. For example, we have problems with shwa-sound. There are several variants of this sound, which don’t seem to be phonological, but which are easily distinguished by the native speakers. And since Besermyan differs phonetically from Udmurt and therefore can be seen as having no writing system, one more problem arises – how to choose lexical entry in case there are several phonetic variants for one lexeme.

 

We would be very grateful for any information concerning these problems.

 

Masha.

 

Maria Brykina

Student

Department of Linguistics

Moscow State University

mailto:marik_bryk at yahoo.com

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