[Lexicog] RE: Query re keyboard re-mapping

Koontz John E john.koontz at COLORADO.EDU
Mon Sep 20 23:36:04 UTC 2004


On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Peter Kirk wrote:
> I think it would work if you copy usp10.dll from C:\Program Files\Common
> Files\Microsoft Shared\OFFICE11 to the same folder as notepad.exe,
> toolbox.exe or whatever - so that Notepad, Toolbox (not Shoebox as this
> is a Unicode only feature) etc uses this usp10.dll rather than the older
> version in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32. ...

OK.  I appreciate the insight into how far things have gotten!  I knew
Unicode support at some level was getting to be pretty widespread, but I
was cynical about rendering of base + diacritic sequences.

It sounds like the next step is to get other vendors to use the Unicode
display interface that is (almost, not quite) in the system API.  So
things are really surprisingly close, for Windows if not, say, Linux.
Maybe there, too?  However, so far, even if this works with Microsoft
applications in Windows, it still hasn't gotten to the point where I think
that the Unicode folks can meaningfully say that support for base +
diacritic rendering is a part of the environment that they (and we) can
take for granted.

Still, their attitude probably has a lot to do with how close things are!
Ten years ago when they started claiming to take this for granted you had
to buy an expensive special purpose text editor to reach that exhaulted
state, and the results looked like they had been scratched on concrete
with a nail.  And, of course, one does need a bit more than one expensive,
cranky text editor or one vendor's non-linguistic applications working to
claim that this kind of rendering comes with modern display engines.

I'm glad to hear about the progress!  As a practicioner with languages
whose combinations of accent marks and nasal hooks are never going to make
it into the precomposed sections of Unicode I am looking forward to this
more flexible rendering capability eagerly.

Of course, now I remember that the other shoe is that text editors have to
be able to handle this kind of text, too.  It gets a bit trickier when
characters can consist of multiple character codes, and you might want to
ignore the diacritic codes in some contexts, but not always.


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