VS: nominal-internal person agreement
Denis.Creissels at UNIV-LYON2.FR
Sat Sep 29 13:29:16 UTC 2012
In Tswana too, the pronoun can be omitted. I think this is general in Bantu
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Objet : Re: VS: nominal-internal person agreement
Swahili has this feature too, unsurprisingly:
'all of us'
'all of you'
Interestingly, you can also omit the pronoun and just say sote, nyote, wote,
Sisi sote tu-me-kwend-a ku-le.
We all 1p-PERF-go-IND LOC-DEM
'We have all gone there.'
Ki-tamba ch-ote ni ki-chafu.
7-cloth 7-all COP 7-dirty
'All the cloth is dirty.'
'The whole cloth is dirty.'
Ny-umba z-ote ni z-angu.
10-house 10-all COP 10-1s.POSS
'All the houses are mine.'
Examples are taken from the following source, and my grammatically
judgements agree with all of them.
Wilson, Peter. 1970. Simplified Swahili. Essex: Longman.
Omnis habet sua dona dies. ~ Martial
On Sep 29, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Fabre Alain <alain.fabre at TUT.FI> wrote:
I have similar examples from my Nivacle data (Mataguayo family, Paraguayan
All of us ask about it
shn-ôk-e-i kun kas-lhakôma
1pl.incl-go-3-apl.loc courtesy 1pl.incl.-all
Lets go there!
-lhakôma all agrees with the subject of the preceeding verb. The
personal prefixes of lhakôma are ambiguous, because the same prefixes are
used for predicative nouns and property verbs (as well as other kinds of
verbs). All translational equivalents of adjectives are inflected like
predicative nouns and other types of verbs. However, as Nivacle makes
extensive use of multi-verb constructions, the above examples could also be
analysed as (asyndetic) coordinated VPs.
All the best,
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Aihe: nominal-internal person agreement
This query is on behalf of Steve Wechsler:
It has been noted that (at least some) Bantu languages have person
agreement inside certain Quantified Noun Phrases:
Thina s-onke si-fik-ile (Zulu; Doke 1963:94, cited in
we 1pl-all 1pl-arrive-perf
'We have all arrived.'
The quantifier onke 'all' agrees with thina 'we' in person (and
number). This is said to be typologically rare since adnominals such
as quantifiers do not normally agree in person. I would be interested
in any examples of such apparently nominal-internal person agreement
in Bantu or other languages. In particular, I wonder if phrases like
[we 1pl-all] can occur in all nominal positions in the sentence (such
as object position), or rather tend to be sentence-initial.
wechsler at mail.utexas.edu
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