LL-L: "Etymology" LOWLANDS-L, 20.DEC.2000 (02) [E/German]

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From: L.Kaczmarek at t-online.de
Subject: Adebar

With reference to Krogmann, Korrespondenzblatt des Vereins fuer
niederdeutsche Sprachforschung 51 (1938, p. 71 f.), the
_Etymologisches Woerterbuch des Deutschen_ by Wolfgang
Pfeiffer (Muenchen 1995, p. 12) gives an interesting etymology for
_Adebar_:
"[...] Ahd. _otibero_ (11./12.Jh.) mit den Varianten _odobero,
odoboro, odofaro_, mhd. _odebar, odevare, ödeber, odibere,
edebar, adebar-_, mnd. _adebar, edebar, edeber(e)_, mnl.
_odevare, oudevaer, oid(e)ver_ machen eine Grundform germ
*_odabaro_ wahrscheinlich, die durch grammatischen Wechsel
wohl aus aelterem *_uda-faro_ entstanden ist. Wenn sich das erste
Glied dieser Zusammensetzung mit aengl. _wa[th]um(a)_ ([th]
stands for thorn) 'Woge, Flut, Strom' verbinden und an eine dentale
Variante auf _-t_ von ie. *_aud-_, *_ued-_, *_ud-_ (s. _Wasser_)
anschliessen laesst, so ergibt sich eine Bedeutung 'sumpfige
Stelle, Wiese'. Das zweite Glied gehoert zu ahd. _faran_ 'gehen,
fahren', so dass _Adebar_ als der "Sumpfgaenger" zu verstehen
ist. [..]"
What follows is the known folk etymology 'Segenbringer
Glueckstraeger' (according to Grimm, Dt. Mythol. 2,638).

Regards,
Ludger

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From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Etymology

Thanks, Ludger!

For all those who do not understand the German source Ludger quoted above, it
basically claims that _Adebaar_ 'stork' comes from *_uda-faro_, in which the
first element (Indo-European *_aud-_, *_ued-_, *_ud-_) denotes a swampy meadow
and the second element contains the better-known verbal root *_fâr-_ 'to move
about', 'to travel' -- hence, _Adeba(a)r_ < "swamp walker".

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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