LL-L: "Language loyalty" (was "Morphology") LOWLANDS-L, 12.JAN.2001 (02) [E]

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From: Helge Tietz [helgetietz at yahoo.com]
Subject: LL-L: "Morphology" (was "Etymology") LOWLANDS-L, 11.JAN.2001 (03) [E]

I can only absolutely agree to Barabar's comments, the
problem with the North German opinion about their own
cultural background and traditions is that they regard
that largely as working class, backwords or as peasant
like and particularily since the last war people tried
to detach themself from that, with it the Low saxon
language had to go incl. any idea of an accent, if I
try to speak to younger persons in Low Saxon in
Hamburg most people don't even recognize the language
anymore and answer in English asking where I'm from.
Since the sixties Hamburg seems to have made "great
progress" in getting rid off it's origional
harbour-international atmosphare which was largely
working-class based, even the old tradition of
drinking "koem un beer" is not very popluar among the
younger generation anymore, on the other hand you find
an increasing number of "Biergaerten", a bavarian
tradition, regarded as more fashionable because of
it's southern German origion, that this is actually a
Southern German working class and peasant tradition
seems, strangely, not to matter at all. The Beatles
were actually very much a part of the old working
class - harbour scene in Hamburg, subsequently the
fact that they played on the Reeperbahn for two years
and made important progress in Hamburg to become one
of the cultural icons of the last century is largely
neglected in Hamburg, when the Beatles left Hamburg in
1963 and set out for world wide success it seems they
have taken the old Hamburg with them.

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