LL-L: "Language varieties" LOWLANDS-L, 29.JUL.2001 (02) [E]

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From: "Aviad Stier" <aviad2001 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Pennsylvania Dutch

Hi All!
I'm sure that's a question that was asked many times, but not while I was
around. What exactly is Pennsylvania Dutch? I mean, I always had the notion

that it was a variety of English, with some German influence ("Dutch"
stemming from "Deutch"), but then an American friend who's from that
region,
claimed that it's the contrary - a German dialect. He said he had heard it
on the radio and seen publications written in Pennsylvania Dutch, and that
is was German (he speaks German very well). While we were arguing, a
colleague of mine, who's Flemish, said HE had heard it spoken and could
easily understand what was said, and therefore deduced it was actually
Dutch. Can anyone clarify this? Also, I tried to find on the internet some
written texts, so that I could see and judge for myself, but I couldn't
find
anything. Does anyone know a site where I might be able to see some written

Pennsylvania Dutch?
Cheers,
Aviad Stier,
Brussels

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Hi, Aviad, Lowlanders!

Yes, this question has been asked several times before.  Here is the quick
answer:

Pennsylvania German is also known as "Pennsylvanisch" or "Pennsylfanish."
The old name "Pennsylvania Dutch" is to be avoided by the enlightened in
order not to perpetuate this misnomer.

It is a German dialect mainly based on Hessian and Rhine-Palatinate
(rhein-pfälzisch) dialects that were imported to North America in the 19th
century (or even earlier?).  As such, they are officially outside our focus
area, though they are of peripheral interest because of hefty doses of
English influences.

> "Dutch"
> stemming from "Deutch")

i.e. _Deutsch_

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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