LL-L "Resources" 2002.08.14 (01) [E]

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From: "Reuben Epp" <repp at silk.net>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2002.08.13 (09) [E]

Dear Lowlanders,

I have written Amanda Reimer under separate cover offering
her my help in re-acquainting herself with Plautdietsch. Ron Hahn
has already given her topnotch advice which I have not belabored
by piling on more.

What I wrote to her, was that I am here and available to
answer questions about Plautdietsch, for which I have an
exceptional personal library. My connections to Plautdietsch
are confirmed by searching for Reuben Epp in Google, Internet.

Cheers!

Reuben

> From: "Black Cat 20" <black_cat_20 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: learning mennonite
>
> Hello all.
>
> I am a fairly new member to lowlands-l, and I joined because I wanted to
> learn how to speak Mennonite Low-German. I am an ethnic Mennonite, but
> was
> raised away from my grandparents, whom all speak Low-German. I was
> wondering
> if anyone knew where I could go to find books and maybe audio tapes to
> teach
> myself Low-German? Also, some books on Mennonite history and culture. I
> have
> found some sites on-line, but I still crave more info. If anyone could
> help
> me out, I would really appreciate it.
>
> Thanks, Amanda
> [Amanda Reimer]
>
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> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Resources
>
> Hi, Amanda!  Welcome to Lowlands-L, and congrats on your first posting!
>
> Just to start with, let me point out two lists we are compiling (as an
> onging project).  (Actually, I noticed it needs revamping because some
> links have died.)  You can access them by going to our homepage
> (http://www.lowlands-l.net/) and letting the curser rest on "Resources"
> in the top panel.  If you choose "Links" you can then choose a "Low
> Saxon (Low German)" list of links, and many of those links should be
> really helpful for you, especially "Kjenn Jie noch Plautdietsch? : a
> Mennonite Low German dictionary," an online resource provided by Herman
> Rempel (Canada).  You will also find a link to the website of
> "Plautdietsch Frind," a very attractive, useful and definitely
> collectible periodical published for a global readership by Peter Wiens
> and the Plautdietsch-Freunde e.V. in Germany.
>
> You can find a list of offline material (books, CDs, etc.) if you choose
> "Offline Material" under "Resources."  The Low Saxon list is divided
> into three sections: "General", "Pre-Modern" and "Modern".  In the
> latter, you will find the section "Modern Low Saxon around the world,"
> and in it are several books about Plautdietsch.
>
> Amanda, I very strongly recommend the following book as a more than
> adequate introduction for anyone even halfway interested in Mennonite
> Low Saxon.  It is written by one of our long-standing members and an
> authority on Plautdietsch, Reuben Epp (Kelowna, British Columbia):
>
>    Epp, Reuben (1993); The Story of Low German & Plautdietsch: tracing
>      a language across the globe; Hillsboro (USA): The Reader's Press
>      <psdirect at southwind.net>; ISBN 0-9638494-0-9. (Contains an
>      excellent introduction to the history and spread of the language,
>      in English)
>
> Since you seem to be serious about learning not only the language but
> also its history and cultural environment, I further recommend reading
> about the entire Low(lands) Saxon ("Low German") language of which
> Plautdietsch represents only one branch.
>
> I am sure that some of our members have further suggestions for you,
> hopefully also about sound recordings.
>
> All the best!
> Reinhard/Ron

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From: jliek <jliek at zeelandnet.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Help needed" 2002.08.13 (03) [E]

>From: "Shelley A McGlathery" <smcgla1 at lsu.edu>
>Subject: Afrikaans
>
>Hey everyone,
>My name is Shelley Ann, I am 18 and from Louisiana over in the states. I
>just joined last week. I am interested in bettering myself in learning
>the
>Afrikaans language, as I will be visiting Krugersdorp (Pretoria area) in
>December. I am in the process of learning Afrikaans, as I am using the
>Colloquial Afrikaans book and cassette tapes to help me, but I need some
>help with the grammar, as it is not very clear. If there is anyone who
>feels like they could spare some time and help me I would really
>appreciate
>it. Baie Dankie. Hope to hear from someone soon.
>-Shelley Ann

Hello Shelley Ann,
In my personal opinion it should be better to learn Dutch, you are able
then to communicate with Afrikaners, but also with 16,000,000 Dutchmen,
6,000,000 Flemings (Belgium), ?000,000 Caribbean (Suriname, Curacao,
Aruba). Afrikaans is also called Cape Dutch.

Grtz,
Jakob (A=Japie,D=Jaap,Z=Jaop)

jaop at myrealbox.com

[Jakob Liek]

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