LL-L "Phonology" 2002.07.02 (05) [E]

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From: Holger Weigelt <platt at HOLGER-WEIGELT.DE>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2002.07.02 (03) [E]

>From: "David Elsworth" <david_elsworth at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Pronunciation
>
>Dear Holger
>
>Many thanks for your translation of the numbers to 100 with the Eastern
>Friesland Low Saxon version. However, as regards the pronuciation of
>300, dreihunnert, I wondered if the ei sound in drei resembled the ij sound
>of the Dutch language in any way.
>The numerals 13-19 show an interesting irregularity because the long
>~a:j~in ta:jn should regularly be changed to short ~ai~ not to ~ei~ which
is the short equivalent to long ~[a-Umlaut]j~ (regular example:
dr[a-Umlaut]
j / dreihunnert = 3 / 300).
>
>Regards
>David Elsworth.

Hello David !
In Eastern Friesland LS we have alternating short/long
(sometimes "stressed", too) pairs (or triplets) of diphthongs like
ai / a:j / âj    [aI / a:I / 'a:`I];
äi / äie         [{I / '{.`I.];
ei / äj          [EI / E:I].
In some cases there occur changes from long to short (in
word-combinations
for example)and these changes normally follow the pairs/triplets very
strongly.
I think You are right assuming that ~ei~ resembles the sound of Dutch
~ij~.
East Frisians pronounce Dutch ~ij~ the same way they pronounce ~ei~ in
their LS language and I hear just little if any difference.
However in Dutch there are many words with ~ij~ which have ~äi~ [{I] in
Eastern Friesland LS. Nevertheless not all Eastern Friesland LS speakers
distinguish clearly between ~ei~ and ~äi~ and sometimes You can also
hear
something like [eI] for both sounds.

Regards
Holger

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