LL-L "Language varieties" 2002.07.04 (02) [E]

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From: <burgdal32 at mac.com>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2002.07.02 (04) [E]

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Language varieties

> If we had started with Lowlands Saxon, Dutch or Afrikaans, for example,
> we would have had as "lead-in" for item 61 _starven_, _sterven_ and
> _sterf_ respectively, and the English slot would then be given the
> cognate "to starve" (i.e., "to waste away with hunger") instead of "to
> die."  So, "cognates only" just won't work.  "Only basic cognates"?
> How?  I was first introduced to the Swadesh List in some introductory
> linguistics course many years ago.  I have to confess that I am no less
> dubious about its methodology and usefulness now.  I understand that I
> have lots of company.
Dear Ron:
To starve and to die is not so far away from each other.
In Dutch we say:
Ik sterf van de honger (E: I'm starving) 'sterf' obviously meaning
almost
dying of hunger.
We have also -versterven(E: mortify the flesh)
             -versterving(E: mortification, mort being French for dead)
And  yes:
starveling(E) is not the same  as the Dutch word 'sterveling'(= a human
being that, like anyone else, once has to die)

Groetjes,
Luc Vanbrabant
Oekene

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