LL-L "Phonology" 2003.02.27 (16) [E]

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From: Ruud Harmsen <rh at rudhar.com>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2003.02.27 (11) [E]

12:31 27-2-2003 -0800, Lowlands-L:
>That is only the case in  the Netherlands. In Belgium there was no
>sound shift,  the "w" stays a "w", and  the  "v" stays a "v".

Yes. The w being bilabial, but not like the English w, rather
unrounded, like a Spanish b/v between vowels, phonetic symbol is a
Greek beta.

This not only applies to Belgium, but also to part of the
Netherlands, like the province of Noord-Brabant. SP leader Jan
Marijnisse, from Oss, is a notable example.

Some parts of the Netherlands north of the rivers do also
distinguish f and v, in addition to having a labiodental w too. That
makes three labiodental sounds, voiceless, (somewhat) voiced, and
very voiced, in other words, approximant. In these areas, g and ch,
s and z are also clearly distinguished. The Rotterdam agglomeration,
where I was born, is an example.
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Ruud Harmsen  http://rudhar.com/

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