LL-L "Celtic connections" 2003.06.02 (06) [E]

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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Celtic connections" 2003.06.01 (05) [E]

Andy Eagle wrote:
"How much evidence is there for 'systematic' removal or extermination
of the native Brithonic population? Was it not more a case o setlement
and absorbtion."

1) There are almost no Celtic loanwords in English. In most scenarios
involving gradual intermingling and ultimate absorption, there is a
dialogue of borrowing between the indigenous and invading tongues.
2) Removal and extermination might not have occured on an enormous
scale, but the fact that there was a 'dividing line' established by
battle
and treaty between the native Britons and the Anglo-Saxons demonstrates
a gradual dispersal to the western regions of Britain (including
Cornwall, Wales, Cumbria and Strathclyde). In this context, many native
Britons did not remain behind to mingle but fled ahead of a general
pastoral-military advance of Anglo-Saxons.

Hope that clarifies matters.

Go raibh maith agaibh

Criostóir.

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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Celtic connections" 2003.06.01 (08) [E]

Dear all,

There's been a lot of talk of genetics. It should be remembered that,
ultimately, all inhabitants of Britain and Ireland - past and present -
derive
from Eurasian gene pools and therefore it is no surprise that native
Britons might have shared the same genetic make-up (however reliable a
barometer that is), particularly in the east of the island, as the
Belgae and other continental Europeans.

Not that genetics matters at all when we discuss linguistics.

Criostóir.

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