LL-L "Language policies" 2003.09.16 (01) [E/S]
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From: Onthe3rdstone at aol.com <Onthe3rdstone at aol.com>
Subject: LL-L "Language policies" 2003.09.15 (03) [E/S]
I sent a simple request for the Scots brochure in my Western, California
crossbred Washingtonian English and I had a reply indicating it was on its
way to me.
Alan [Lewish]
Everett, WA
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From: Sandy Fleming [sandy at scotstext.org]
Subject: "Language policies"
> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Language policies
>
> Dear Scots Lawlanders,
>
> Dae us an obleegement an gi us the correck wirdin fer protestin the Scots
> version o the parliamentrie brochure, sae we can pit tae yer hands whil
> ramfeezlin the clarks wi our furrin nems an backins.
Did Chris Ferguson no dae this afore? His wirds wis:
<quote>
"A hae been telt aboot yer leaflet "Makkin yer voice heard in the Scottish
Pairlament" in the Scots leid an A wud be gie huddin tae youse if youse cud
send me ( or "send'iz" in Scots central dialect) a copy tae:
Name::
Address:"
Translation.
"A have been told about your leaflet "Makkin yer voice heard in the Scottish
Pairlament" in Scots language and I would be much obliged to you if you
could send me a copy to:
Name:
Address:"
</quote>
To give this a more formal appearance you might write,
<Address>
16t September 2003
Dear Sir or Madam,
I've heard[/hard] tell o yer pamphlet "Makkin yer vyce[/voice] heard[/hard]
in the Scottish Pairlament", in the Scots langage[/langwidge] an wad be gey
haudin til ye gin ye could send me a copy,
Aefauld[/Aefauldlie],
<name>
(I don't know if "pamphlet" is more Scots than "leaflet", but it's the only
word I would use in Scots for that sort of thing.)
How about "barleyment" for "parliament"? :)
Sandy
http://scotstext.org/
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From: NTL <shoogly at ntlworld.com>
Subject: LL-L "Language policies" 2003.09.15 (10) [S/E]
Great ;-)
Crìsdean
( Chris Ferguson )
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From: Andy Eagle <andy at scots-online.org>
Subject: LL-L "Language policies" 2003.09.15 (10) [S/E]
R. F. Hahn Wrote:
>Dear Scots Lawlanders,
>Dae us an obleegement an gi us the correck wirdin fer protestin the
Scots
>version o the parliamentrie brochure, sae we can pit tae yer hands
whil
>ramfeezlin the clarks wi our furrin nems an backins.
>Dear Scots Lowlanders,
>Do us a favor and give us the correct wording for requesting the
Scots
>version of the parliamentary brochure, so we can be of help while
confusing
>the clerks with our foreign names and addresses.
In true parlamentaty style you could try:
Dear folk,
I am interestit in faurer speirins anent the Scottish Pairlament an
wud like ye tae send me a copy o "Makkin Yer Voice Heard in the
Scottish Pairlament" sae that I can be involved in the devolvit
Pairlament an mak ma voice heard an hae MSPs or committees
owerluik onie o my concerns or gie me facks aboot Acts.
Andy Eagle
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From: R. F. Hahn <lowlands-l at lowlands-l.net>
Subject: Language policies
Thanks for the help, Sandy and Andy! And sorry about me having spaced out
Crìsdean's previously provided template. (Another senior moment, I
suppose.) Well, at least Crìsdean seems to understand and appreciate what I
was trying to accomplish, and thanks to your help we can now send our
requests in a variety of wordings.
Seriously though, I expect our efforts to request the brochures/leaflets in
Scots to have a positive result, if any. It shows that there is interest in
Scots, that there are even non-Scottish learners of Scots, all over the
world. This might have the effect of a slap on the shoulder: "Thanks for
the Scots version. Well done! And now carry on like this. We're watching."
Besides, it sends the message that the government can be addressed in Scots,
that doing so does not make the clerks' heads explode.
International attention can be very useful when it comes to policies
regarding minority and regional languages and cultures, because it sends
home the message that this is *not* an internal, regional matter but one
that the world watches. If we speakers, students and enthusiasts of "minor"
languages help each other out in this way, we might be able to get something
accomplished in the long run. I for one am solidly behind any solidly
founded effort of this sort.
Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
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