LL-L "Etymology" 2004.04.28 (01) [E/LS]

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From: Jan Strunk <strunkjan at hotmail.com>
Subject: Terminology


Hello,

while looking through some Low Saxon texts, I have found the following
sentence, where "stopen" is used.
Is that the Low Saxon version of "stoep"?

Wi erinnert us an den Mann , de bloots noch een Schadden in ' n Steen weer ,
un stellt us vör , wat wi sülvst to Placken warrt op {de Stopen vun {uns
Huus}} .

The link is:
http://www.plattpartu.de/welt/roy.htm

Jan Strunk
jstrunk at stanford.edu

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Hi, Jan, Lowlanders!

> while looking through some Low Saxon texts, I have found the
> following sentence, where "stopen" is used.
> Is that the Low Saxon version of "stoep"?

I suppose so, though in this case the actual steps leading up to the
building are meant.  As I wrote earlier:

> LS _stoup_ ~ _stöyp_ (<Stoop> ~ <Stööp>) means 'step' (of stairs and in
any
> statified situation, not "(foot)step," which is _stap_ (<Stapp>)), also
> 'tier', 'grade' or 'stage/step (in a development or process)'.

Dutch/Afrikaans /uu/ (<oe>) vs LS /ou/ (<o(o)>) and umlauted /öü/ (<ö(ö)> ~
<eu> ~ <äu>) is definitely regular; cf.:

goed/goed - goud (<goot> ~ <gaut>) 'good'
groen/groen - gröyn (<gröön> ~ <greun> ~ <gräun>) 'green'
zoet/soet - söyt (<sööt> ~ <seut> ~ <säut>) 'sweet'
doen/doen - doun (<doon> ~ <daun>) 'to do'
groeten/groet - dröyten (<gröten> ~ <greuten> ~ <gräuten>) 'to greet'
hoe/hoe - wou (<wo>) 'how'
zwoel/swoel - swöyl (<swööl> ~ <sweul> ~ <swäul>) 'sultry'
zoeken/soek - söyken (<söken> ~ <seuken> ~ <säuken>) 'to seek'
moeder/moeder - mouder (<Moder>) 'mother'
boek/boek - bouk (<Book>) 'book'

Kumpelmenten,
Reinhard/Ron

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