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From: C. Jane Driedger <janedriedger at yahoo.ca>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2004.01.02 (03) [E]


  Hi,

  I am thinking specifically of mennonite low german (plautdietsch),
however, since there was so much migration going on amongst them, I imagine
that many of the words they use for plants are from other languages or
dialects, so it would be interesting to explore the languages that they were
surrounded by, not just low german.

  I'm still doing research to find out what exactly I'm going to do my
thesis on, so I'm not sure what specific info I need to find.  But I thought
I'd get my message out there and start making some contacts.

  One thing I'm really interested in is finding out what has already been
done in the area of mennonites and how they used plants-including old books
of home remedies, recipes, etc.  I'm also trying to learn more low german.
My dad is fluent in it, however, I only started learning it last year!

  Where are you from?

  Jane D.



  From: R. F. Hahn
  Subject: Resources

  Hello, Jane, and a special welcome to you! I am pleased you did not let
  being a "newby" stand in the way of submitting a posting. I hope you will
  get many useful responses.

  I am not totally clear about what you mean by "Low German" here, if you
are
  referring specifically to Mennonite Lowlands Saxon (Mennonite Low German =
  "Plautdietsch") or to the entire Lowlands Saxon ("Low German") language of
  which the former is only a small part.

  If you are referring to the entire language I could possibly help you with
  plant names in the North Saxon dialects (the largest of the groups of
  dialects of which I speak and write one, though I understand *all*
dialects
  of the language), and finding the equivalents in Dutch and Frisian should
  not be problematic. I could also direct you to a number of resources about
  the history of the language. To begin with, I would like you to take note
  of the following basic resources:

  Lowlands-L Beginners' Guide to Offline Language Materials: Low Saxon
  http://www.lowlands-l.net/index.php?page=offline_nds

  Lowlands Talk: Low Saxon (Low German):
  http://www.lowlands-l.net/talk/eng/index.php?page=lowsaxon


  Epp, Reuben (1993); _The Story of Low German & Plautdietsch: tracing a
  language across the globe_; Hillsboro (USA): The Reader's Press
  ; ISBN 0-9638494-0-9

  Mennonite Low German Dictionary:
  http://www.mennolink.org/cgi-bin/dictcgi

  Thiessen, Jack (1977); Mennonite Low German Dictionary; Marburg (Germany):
  Elwert (in English)

  Thiessen, Jack (1999); Mennonitisch-Plautdietsches Wörterbuch - Mennonite
  Low German Dictionary; under the auspices of the Hanover Steinbach
  Historical Society Inc., Box 1960, Steinbach, Manitoba, Canada, ROA 2A0;
516
  pp.; $25.00 Canadian, $18.00 US (including postage and fees, available
from
  janda at ccco.net or Dr. Jack Thiessen, Box 135, New Bothwell, MB, ROA 1CO,
  Canada; (in English, German and Mennonite Low Saxon)

  If you need to discuss details, please feel free to contact me at my
private
  address: sassisch at yahoo.com

  Good luck with your research!

  Regards,
  Reinhard/Ron




  From: C. Jane Driedger
  Subject: looking for low german speakers


  hi from Canada!
  I'm a new member here, and I am looking for some specific information from
  anyone who speaks Low German.

  I'm doing a masters degree, and my thesis will be about Mennonite
  ethnobotany (plants and their uses). This means I need to trace the low
  german language as far back as I can-to Germany, the Netherlands,
  Switzerland, Poland, Prussia, the Ukraine, Mexico, South America, and
North
  America. I'm looking for names of crops and plants, and what plants were
  taken with the migrations.

  If anyone here speaks low german (I can speak only a little bit), please
  feel free to email me to discuss this.
  thanks
  Jane Driedger


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