LL-L "Lexicon" 2004.01.21 (10) [E]

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From: kcaldwell31 at comcast.net <kcaldwell31 at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2004.01.21 (09) [E]

> From: Floor en Lyanne van Lamoen <fvanlamoen at planet.nl>
> Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2004.01.21 (04) [E]
>
> The discussion of
> historia matematica was funny, because it was agreed that "Anzahl" means
> "cardinality", a concept of which I doubt that "normal people" have any
idea
> of. The problem came up when a sentence by Cantor was to be translated
into
> English:
>
> Die Anzahl der auf diese Weise gebildeten Zahlen ist unendlich.
> The number (Anzahl) of numbers (Zahlen) formed in this way are infinite.
>
> It was mentioned that one translator used Anzahl in the English text.
>
> A good distinction for English speaking people, not familiar with the
> "cardinality" concept is:
>
> ... number *of* ... --> Anzahl / aantal

So Anzahl/aantal means "quantity" or "amount".

> ... number ... --> Zahl / getal
>
> I think that is the same distinction you were aiming at, Reinhard.
>
> Another remarkable thing is the English plural in this translation. The
> original by Cantor stated "ist unendlich" and also Dutch would use here a
> singular form.

Yes, it is remarkable.  I would have written "The [number/quantity/amount]
of numbers formed in this way is infinite" rather than "... are infinite."
"The number .... are..." just sounds weird to this native speaker.

Kevin Caldwell

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