LL-L "Etymology" 2004.07.23 (06) [E]

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From: Roger Hondshoven <roger.hondshoven at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2004.07.22 (12) [E]


From: Gustaaf van Moorsel <gvanmoor at aoc.nrao.edu>
Subject: Etymology

My brother, visiting me from the Netherlands, brought with him
a welcome supply of stroopwafels, some of which I distributed
here among friends who I know appreciate this delicacy. One
of them replied with "thanks for the siroopwafels", using the
word "siroop" rather than "stroop". And yes, on the package
it clearly does say "siroopwafels" > syrup waffles, although I
don't think anybody uses that word in actual speech.

So, what is the etymology of 'stroop'? Is it somehow derived
from 'siroop', and if so, how does an 'i' become a 't'? Or
does it a have derivation of its own? Do other lowland
languages have cognates of 'stroop' (= cane sugar syrup)?

Gustaaf

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Beste Luc,

Time and again I am astonished to notice (in various publications, including
the website  you mentioned below) that no mention is made of the use of the
word 'spinnenkop' in East-Brabant (particularly in Getelands)  in the sole
meaning of "spiderweb".  In these dialects a spider is called 'spin'.

Kind greetings,

Roger Hondshoven

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Roger:

> In these dialects a spider is called 'spin'.

As in Lowlands Saxon (Low German): _spin_ (<Spinn> [spI.n], cf. German
_Spinne_).  "Cobweb" is _spinnenweb_, _spinnenweeb_,  _spinnenweev'_,
_spinnengeweev'_, etc. (German _Spinnengewebe_).

Groetjes,
Reinhard/Ron

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