LL-L "Architecture" 2004.07.26 (07) [E]

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From: Ruth & Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
Subject: LL-L "Identity" 2004.07.26 (02) [E]

Dear Pat,

Subject: Identity.

> > (research student in archaeology, asking questions about how people
> > identified themselves as 'Dutch' outside of the Low Countries in the
> > 1600s and 1700s)

> Is this (above) a serious statement? If so, you are about to be so
> snowed under!

> Thank you both for asking.  Yes, I'm serious.  I am working on the use
> and meaning of wall anchors (muurankeren), and comparing this building
> technique to other ways people identified themselves, or others as being
> Dutch.  I'm particularly interested in the use of material culture in
> such identification.

I humbly apologise! I thought this was a strictly linguistic matter, ratther
than, ah, venacular architecture. Mind you, I should have thought the wall
anchor was too idiosyncratic a device with which to follow cultural
diffusion & differentiation.
On this same subject, as I page through a guide-book (to the 'Nederlands
Openluchtmuseum'), I spot pictures showing wall-anchors that are 'I' shaped,
'Y' shaped, shaped to depict the date of building, 'I', '6', 'I', '7', but
mostly just vertical 'I' shaped.
Sorry, you got me interested. I should rather have followed other venacular
architectural trends, like the use of brick (very telling - there is no
stone in the Netherlands) & the use of gables, as opposed to overhanging
eaves. An English bricklayer's reference to the 'Flemish bond' tells you
pretty unequivocally where it came from, as well as approximately when
(English these days are more likely to use 'Belgian' as an appellation these
days, than 'Fleminsh' for example.
Sorry - your subject - 'bye.

Yrs,
Mark

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