LL-L "Phonology" 2004.09.04 (04) [E]

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From: David Barrow <davidab at telefonica.net.pe>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2004.09.03 (07) [E]

>From: Sandy Fleming <sandy at scotstext.org>
>Subject: "Phonology" [E]
>
>>From: David Barrow <davidab at telefonica.net.pe>
>>Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2004.09.02 (11) [E]
>>
>>>From: Sandy Fleming <sandy at scotstext.org>
>>>Subject: "Phonology" [E]
>>>
>>>For the record, in Scots it's "timaitae" and "tahtie".
>>>
>>Sandy,
>>Is the above a spelling or a pronunciation? If it's a pronunciation what
>>is the difference between 'ai' and 'ae'?
>
>Unfortunately my mail settings don't seem to be allowing me to post IPA
>characters any more, but using SAMPA the pronunciations in my own Scots
>dialect are /t at me:?I/ and /tQ:?I/ respectively.
>
>Multisyllabic English words that end in an unstressed "-o" or "-ow" are
>usually pronounced with a schwa-like sound for the final syllable in Scots,
>/I/ in some dialects /V/ in others. I use the spelling "-ae" for this.
>
>So the spellings would be "timaitae" (no universally accepted spelling) and
>"tattie" (universally accepted).
>
>For SAMPA see http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/sampa/home.htm
>
>Sandy
>http://scotstext.org/
>
Sandy
Thanks for the above. I already knew about that site. I prefer to use

http://www.i-foo.com/~kturtle/misc/xsamchart.gif

for IPA/Sampa conversions

But I'm curious about the pronunciation /tQ:?I/  That would make it
sound more like 'taughtie' to English ears. Isn't Scottish  English
short  'a'  /a/ ? Is it different in Scots

David Barrow

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