LL-L "Phonology" 2005.04.02 (01) [E]

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.04.01 (07) [E]

<ou> to <ai> is not exactly the same as Afr. <ui> to <ai>, because Afr.
<ou> doesn't become <ai> but keeps its value, but probably this N. Irish
Engl. process had an intermediate stadium where <ou> went <ui> first, and
then <ui> became <ai>.

I'll give a tip for all non-Dutch how to pronounce <ui> easily:
first say [a] (like in Dutch, German, Italian, Spanish etc) and then say
[y](=Dutch/French <u>, German <ü>, Scandinavian <y>).
So: huis = ha~üs, ha~us, ha~ys, and Spui = spa~ü, spa~u, spa~y, etc.

Ingmar Roerdinkholder

>From: Arthur Jones <arthurobin2002 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.04.01 (05) [E]
>
>Groeten, alle
>
>Dumb (even for me!) question: is this _ui to ai_ process similar to that
>which occurred in the Six Counties of the North of Ireland, _house_ to
>_hais_ ?, Or _pound_ to _paind_ ?
>
>I recall that non-Dutch also have trouble with the square in Amsterdam
named
>_Spui_, pronouncing it e.g., _spow_ or _spooee_. Something like an
unstable
>molecule, inte sant?

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