LL-L "Idiomatica" 2005.04.16 (04) [E]

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Idiomatica" 2005.04.16 (01) [E]

James' (mother's) "jossop" looks like modern Randstad Dutch 'jottum'.
The normal expression in colloquial Dutch is "dinges" for things and
people, and "dingetje" for people, whose name you just can't or don't
want to remember right now...
About "Wodyamacallit" - isn't that just from "what you MAY call it?" or
"what you MIGHT call it?" That would make more sense than "-ma-"
etc from "me"

Ingmar

>From: James Campbell <james at zolid.com>
>Subject: LL-L "Idiomatica" 2005.04.15 (07) [E]
>
>>Compare 'jossop' (unspecified liquid) and 'clart' (unspecified gloop).
These
>were both inherited from my mother, a Northern lass by birth.
>
>James
>
>From: Jo Thijs <jo.thijs1 at telenet.be>
>Subject: LL-L "Idiomatica" 2005.04.15 (01) [E]
>
>Hi Gary,
>
>> are there parallels in other
>> lowland languages using a personal pronoun where it
>> doesn't really belong - or does it?
>
>In Limburgish it's quite common to ad 'me' near subject and verb, and to a
>lesser extent in Dutch.
>cfr 'Hij is me gisteren hier geweest'. 'Hoe noem je me dat?'
>It's called a 'dativus Graeccus', stating who 's concerned (if I remember
>well).
>Grammatically wodya'ma'callit does make sense.
>
>Hou je goed,

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