LL-L "Names" 2005.01.28 (06) [E]

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From: Brooks, Mark <mark.brooks at twc.state.tx.us>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.01.28 (05) [E]

Ron wrote:  "the name is Helge (Tietz), not Helga"

Ya know, to make it even worse, I originally typed Helge and then went back
to the original e-mail to double check it.  I would have sworn that I saw an
"a" there on the end of the name.  So, I changed it to Helga.  Do you think
it's my advancing age?

Mark Brooks

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From: David Barrow <davidab at telefonica.net.pe>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.01.28 (05) [E]

>From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Language varieties
>
>Hi, Mark!
>
>Great to hear from you again.
>
>Here's to let you know that the name is Helge (Tietz), not Helga.  Helge is
>a North European name for *males*.*
>
>(* It's related to Ukrainian Oleh Олег / Russian Олег Oleg, the masculine
>counter part of Helga =  Ukrainian Ольга Ol'ha / Russian Ольга Ol'ga, which
>apparently entered these languages from Old Swedish during Eastern Viking
>reign.)
>
>I'm just clarifying this because the name Helge is not generally known
>among
>non-Europeans, and I can see that most of them would assume it's a woman's
>name.
>
>No need to feel embarrassed, though.  I remember the time when I thought
>that our loyal friends Floor van Lamoen and Sandy Fleming were women.  They
>were good enough to reveal their actual sex -- well, let's rather say
>gender -- to the List before this could take on a life of its own.
>However,
>it's not as though members' genders are of great relevance, though.
>
>Have a great weekend, Mark and everyone!
>
>Regards,
>Reinhard/Ron
>
Why gender rather? Humans are distinguished by sex,  nouns are
distinguished by gender
Why are people so squeamish about the word 'sex'?

David Barrow

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Names

Mark:

> Do you think it's my advancing age?

Probably not, and if it were ... join the club!

David:

> Why gender rather? Humans are distinguished by sex,  nouns are
> distinguished by gender
> Why are people so squeamish about the word 'sex'?

It was supposed to be funny, David, ... but it seems to be more like a
"fizzogh."  Just after I wrote "... reveal their actual sex ..." I thought
that a few people might find that somewhat questionable, that it might
conjur up weird mental pictures because of the many uses of the word "sex."

But ... you'd have to have been there.

Kumpelmenten,
Reinhard/Ron

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