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From: Ian Pollock <ispollock at shaw.ca>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2005.07.21 (13) [E]

> From: Rikus Kiers <kiersbv at tiscali.nl>
> Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2005.07.21 (11) [E]
>
> Dear Ian,
>
> Concerning SWADESH: could you supply us with a list of words, or
> mention a
> web-site where we can get hold of it?
>
> Rikus Kiers

Wikipedia has some Swadesh lists:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Swadesh_list

And some information on Swadesh lists in general:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swadesh_list

And here's a template for them:
http://www.rosettaproject.org/live/search/contribute/swadesh/view/

Moi moi!
-Ian

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2005.07.21 (13) [E]

Yes, I know the Swadesh list itself of course, but what I meant with
"what or who was Swadesh?" is: where does the name Swadesh come from,
Is it a famous linguist, or an abbreviation, or something else?

Ingmar

>Mark Williamson wrote:
>Yes Ingmar, this would be much appreciated :)
>As for what a swadesh list is, I think Ron answered that
>satisfactorily, but basically: a list of 207 basic words that are
>supposed to change more slowly than any other words (this is probably
>not the case, but that's the original idea behind it), usually used to
>determine the date that two related languages separated from one
>another, but also used for more generalised comparitive purposes.

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2005.07.21 (11) [E]

Thanks Ian, this answers my question. I'll fill in the Swadesh list for
the languages/dialects I know.

Ingmar

Ian Pollock >
>Btw: what or who is / was SWADESH?
>
>The Swadesh List was named after and invented by the American linguist
>Morris Swadesh. It's a list of "basic" words (usually 100) common in
>almost all languages, such as "mother", "house", "ground", "she". The
>idea is that you compile these lists for several languages and then
>classify them as related or non-related on the basis of how many words
>are the same.

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2005.07.21 (07) [E]

Ehm, is there a Swalist that can be filled in, with blank columns etc.?
I'm not so able with my PC that I can add new columns to the Lowlands list
below

Ingmar
>>
>>http://lowlands-l.net/swadesh.htm
is a good starting point --

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