LL-L "Resources" 2005.07.27 (02) [E]

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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2005.07.26 (08) [E]


Jonny wrote:
"Nowhere to find 'Monkeyhanger', 'twocer' and 'numpty'."

As I understand it, "Monkeyhanger" as a nickname for people from Hartlepool 
is related to their football club - the mascot is a fella in a monkey suit 
named "H'Angus the Monkey". He was elected mayor a couple of years ago and 
now goes by the "daylight" name of Stuart Drummond.

"Numptie" was, I thought, a Scots word deriving from "empty" as in 
"empty-headed".

Isaac M Davis wrote:
"Wow. I don't know much at all about the intra-Cornish rivalry, but just as 
an outsider, looking at the different orthographies, KK seemed to me to make 
the most sense."

Well, bear in mind my reply was to our Dan Prohaska. As we are both two 
people linked to the language movement I would not feel the need to mince 
words as he knows what I am on about. I would not discourage anyone from 
learning whatever variety of Cornish is at hand to them. But within the 
language movement itself I would discourage KK.

If UC is modern English synthesised from Shakespeare, then KK is modern 
English synthesised from what a computer predicts Chaucer perhaps / maybe / 
supposed / might should have sounded like.

"Could you recommend a good book on the history of the Cornish revival?"

Dan might know of more recent works. I don't think there's a book 
specifically dealing with the controversies within the revival movement, 
although I have read the odd article in various linguistics journals, and 
our dilemma is regularly featured in Cornish Studies, the journal of the 
Cornish Studies unit at the University of Exeter (!) if it is still 
published. (I left Cornwall seven years ago.)

A good introduction to the Cornish Language generally, including the pre-KK 
language movement, is Ellis, Peter Berresford. The Cornish Language and Its 
Literature (1974). Very in-depth.

Happy hunting! Glad to see interest in agon tavaz ('our language'). Lowena 
tha whye! ("Happiness to you!")

Criostóir.

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