LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.03.08 (12) [E]

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From: Ben Bloomgren <ben.bloomgren at asu.edu>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.03.08 (08) [E]

Also, how different is the Dutch in Suriname from that of Belgium and the
Netherlands?s

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From: Ben Bloomgren <ben.bloomgren at asu.edu>
Subject: LL-L "Anniversary" 2005.03.08 (03) [E]

not so fond of dialects

Ingmar, list, I noticed that my Italian professor was not so fond of the
Italian dialects that permeate even his own accent of "italian." I know a
site called www.dialettando.com. I wisht that we had a site like that for
the dialects of the Germanic languages. Dialects are wonderful things
because they show history and how little hamlets fit into this huge world.

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Ben, you wrote above:

> I know a site called www.dialettando.com.

Thanks for that.  I really enjoy it.  (For everyone else: it's a collection
of poetry in various Italic varities of Italy and France, sorted by region.)

I showed a couple of the Venetian poems to someone who comes from the Veneto
and has been living here for quite a while.  Her reaction?  She tried to
crack a smile (assumedly to accommodate me), but she came out looking rather
like I had just shown her a picture of her grandma's undies that I had
discovered on the web ...  I'm familiar with that sort of face.  When I
showed her the Corsican and Sardinian pages, she made defensive hand
movements and ran away ... so there was some added prejudice at play.

Many people, especially Europeans, still think that "dialect" is something
you can deal with either academically (if you must, in your little office)
or to make fun of it; it is not to be taken seriously.

I saw similar facial expressions when about a year ago I spoke about Low
Saxon with a lady who was born and raised in Zwolle in a family that moved
there from Northern Holland.  People like her probably consider me rather
"odd," to put it mildly.  She accommodated me while I was speaking about the
dialects in Northern Germany, but I lost her when I started mentioning the
Eastern Netherlands.  Too close to home, I guess.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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