LL-L "Etymology" 2006.03.14 (07) [D/E]

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14 March 2006 * Volume 07
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From: Felix Hülsey <felix.huelsey at gmx.de>
Subject: LL-L "Lexicon"

Dear all,

Jacqueline wrote:

>
> Aha! so hence the Dutch word for hangover is "kater", which normally means
> tom cat. I never understood that since all my real-life tom cats have been
> wonderful housemates. Jacqueline
>

And Ron replied:
>
> As for "hangover," it's the same in Low Saxon (kater_ ["kQ:t3`]) and
> German (_Kater_).
>
> I'm sure there's some story behind this one.
>

I have found two stories:

First: Kater was the name of a beer, "denn es kratzet dem Menschen der
sein zu viel getrunken hat, des morgens im Kopff" (1575); this "Kratzen
im Kopf" (scratching in the head) then came to be called Kater. Even
before, Katzenjammer had been used as a word for hangover.
(according to Kluge - Etymologisches Wörterbuch der deutschen Sprache).

Second: the word came in use in the second half of the 19th century,
first with students in Jena and Leipzig; it is basically the Eastern
Middle German (? ostmitteldeutsche) pronunciation of "Katarrh" and was
then used facetiously, under the influence of the older word Katzenjammer.
(according to dtv - Etymologisches Wörterbuch des Deutschen, ed.
Wolfgang Pfeifer)

Zou dit woord als een leenwoord uit het Duits het Nederlands zijn
binnengedrongen, of zit er nog een ander verhaal achter?

Groeten uit Keulen
Felix

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Thanks a lot, Felix.

> Eastern Middle German (? ostmitteldeutsche)

Eastern Central German

("Eastern Middle German" denotes eastern dialects of Middle German, which 
came between Old "High" German and Modern German.)

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron 

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