LL-L "Etymology" 2006.03.20 (04) [E]

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21 March 2006 * Volume 04
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From: Roger Hondshoven <roger.hondshoven at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2006.03.20 (01) [E]

Thanks Ron. I don't think there's a connection with French rapide. Late
Middle-Dutch already had a word 'rap', meaning "uit de band springend,
dartel" (+/-breaking out from the traditional, playful). I am rather
inclined to suspect a relation with Dutch '(zich) reppen' (to hurry).

Kind regards,
Roger

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Interesting, Roger.  But can you come up with cognates in related languages?

Ah, yes, German dialects have _rappen_, Danish _rappe_, Swedish _rappa_ 'to 
make haste', and obsoletete English "to rap" in the same sense, also Middle 
Saxon and Middle Duch as well as Swedish _rap(p)_ 'quick', 'rapid'.

But I still wonder if these either came from or are related to Latin and Old 
French *_rapid-_, also *_rap-_ as in Latin _rapio_ 'raptor', 'bird of prey' 
(attacking quickly? but that may be related to _rapo_ 'robber').

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron 

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