LL-L 'Customs' 2006.11.03 (07) [E/German]

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L O W L A N D S - L * 03 November 2006 * Volume 01
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From: 'Global Moose Translations' [globalmoose at t-online.de]
Subject: LL-L 'Customs' 2006.11.03 (01) [E]

Ron wrote:
>It may be true that in
>supposedly "sober" Protestant culture of the Lowlands there is a tradition
of
>avoiding expressions of affection. However, I believe that this is on the
way
>out (as also demonstrated by Jonny) and these days is predominant only in
some
>communities that are "at the back of beyond" and/or might be called
"xenophobic"
>in that they do not readily absorb new settlers and outside influences.

What would all this have to do with "xenophobic"? And what, pray tell, is
"at the back of beyond"? Anyway, you haven't lived in the Lowlands in ages,
so how would you know?

Of course people will verbally express affection in any language, but
usually this happens behind closed doors, in a one-on-one setting. I was
merely stating (and lamenting) the fact that in some cultures and places,
there seems to be a true inflation of "I love you" and, worse, because it is
so very manipulative, "we love you".

There are many other ways of showing affection that ring a lot truer than a
sing-song "I loooove you" to end a telephone conversation. And I do not
believe that a certain reluctance to advertise one's feelings for all the
world to hear is "on the way out" in the Lowlands at all. The day I hear my
neighbour tell his wife that he loves her when he sets out on his tractor, I
will see his pigs flying out the barn door next.

Gabriele Kahn

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From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Customs 

I wrote:

> ...*might be* called "xenophobic"
> in that they do not readily absorb new settlers and outside influences.

<quote>
xenophobe
   A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, 
   especially of strangers or foreign peoples.
</quote>
American Heritage Dictionary

<quote>
Xenophobie:
Kulturell: Alles soziale Handeln ist kulturell überformt, d. h. kollektive
Distanz und Feindseligkeit ist erworbene Grundstimmung (siehe auch Mentalität
einer Gesellschaft). So sind Stammesgesellschaften, aber auch ländliche
Gesellschaften mit Grundbesitzerstrukturen, deren Traditionen stark auf fixierten
Regel beruhen, Neubürgern gegenüber eher zurückhaltend bis ablehnend eingestellt. 
</quote>
Wikipedia.de

<quote>
"Lowlands languages" are those Germanic languages that developed in the
"Lowlands" the low-lying areas adjacent to the North Sea and the Baltic Sea.
These are primarily Dutch, Zeelandic (Zeeuws, West Flemish), Frisian, Limburgish
and Low Saxon (Low German). Also included are those languages that descended from
autochtonous Lowlands languages and are used elsewhere; for example, Afrikaans,
Lowlands-based emigrant languages, pidgins and creoles, and also English and
Scots. "Lowlands cultures" are those cultures that utilize Lowlands languages or
are clearly derived from such cultures.
</quote>

Kumpelmenten,
Reinhard/Ron

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