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L O W L A N D S - L  -  17 May 2007 - Volume 01

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From: Pat Reynolds <pat at caerlas.demon.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Anniversary" 2007.05.17 (01) [E/LS]

In message
<57c981290705171226k520403ceob4ce2578d388d4be at mail.gmail.com>,
Lowlands-L List <lowlands.list at gmail.com>i.e. Ron/Reinhard  writes
>P.S.: Pat and Marcel, I'm afraid all that talk about meetings has made
>folks retreat into their shells ... Uh-oh

Well, I have seen something very similar happen with another internet
special interest group I am involved with.  I am not sure how long ago
it was founded, but about ten or eleven years ago, I was invited to what
I think was a committee meeting of the group that ran the list.  I then
didn't meet anyone for another five or six years, when I happened to say
to someone 'I''m going to Oxford next weekend' and they said 'Let's meet
up!'.

And there were from time to time mutterings on the list that we 'should
meet up', but nothing happened until one man said 'look, I am going to
be in this bar on this evening, and if anyone wants to join me, please
do'.  So a meeting happened.  That group has met, at first irregularly,
but now we seem to be proposing a first-friday-of-the-Quarter pattern so
that our far-flung friends can plan their holidays and business trips
around our meeting. And then about a year ago, people in the North and
the South West began grumbling that 'all the meetings are in London',
and they were told : you can have a meeting - all it takes is the name
of a pub and a date - but for a long time they didn't believe it!  But
_eventually_ someone in both areas called a meeting!

I think there are numerous barriers to 'real' meetings - some people
think there must be a Chairman and Minutes, some people think 'I like
listening to conversations, but I don't feel I have anything to
contribute', or 'My English / LS / whatever isn't good enough' or 'I am
ok at writing about these things where I can go away and think about it
and look things up, but I wouldn't be able to hold my own among all the
experts!'    Or 'I wouldn't want to go to all the trouble and expense of
going to a meeting, only to find that I didn't like it'. What if
Lowlands-l is all a front for mad axemen looking for potential victimes,
and I never see my family again?

All that is fair enough (apart from the mad axemen bit! - really, you
think we'd kill you???).  Perhaps Marcel, Ron and I should plan to meet
up in NYC at some point?  Perhaps anyone stopping by in London  (or
Woking!) would like to drop me a line, and if I'm around, we could meet
up, inviting in anyone else who happens to be passing or living nearby.
If it works it works, if it doesn't, it doesn't.   Perhaps I should send
my itinary for the next few months, and if anyone wants to meet up in
Athens, Oslo, or various places in Japan, we can do that...

Cheers,

Pat
--
Pat Reynolds

It may look messy now ...
        ... but just you come back in 500 years time (T. Pratchett).

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Anniversary

Thanks, Pat.  You're probably right on all counts.

Ax murderers?!  Why, yes.  Psst!  Don't you think twelve years is long
enough for leading up to it, and it's now time for action?

> ... - some people think there must be a Chairman and Minutes,

Well, sure!  I could do a convincing chairman if that floats people's boats.
Do you volunteer as minute taker?  This doesn't mean we can't have crazy
feasting, carousing and dancing as well, does it?  I'm still fancying the
promised lazy summer afternoon tea on Heather's lawn with ripe stone fruit
falling on our heads. (I'd make my famous "plum pizza" and participate in
croquet or even cricket!) And what about that hoe-down underneath Gabriele's
Ulenflucht? There's no limit to the mind's fancy flight.

Reinhard/Ron

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