LL-L "Language politics" 2007.10.19 (01) [E]

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L O W L A N D S - L  -  19 October 2007 - Volume 01
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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Language politics" 2007.10.18 (06) [E]

Sorry Roger, I should have known to be more careful as a Dutchman saying
something about Flemish, this is still a precarious matter which can
provoke allergic reactions ;-) Actually I did not mean they didn't know
Dutch, but that they didn't know standard Dutch very well. What I meant is
that they did not _use_  standard Dutch, but, as you wrote yourself, a
heavily coloured language. But I think not only by French but especially
by their own dialects as well. I was talking about the first half of the
last century, or do you think they did use standard Dutch in that period?

Ingmar

Roger Hondshoven <rhondshoven at yahoo.com> schreef:
Subject: LL-L "Language politics" 2007.10.12 (05) [E]

To my mind, this is highly exaggerated. Of course the Flemish continued to
use their dialects in everyday circumstances and in local surroudings. But
colonial public servants *did* know Dutch, be it that their language was
considerably influenced by French.----------

Ingmar wrote:
I assume in that period, the first half of the last century, many Flemish
even didn't know standard Dutch very well themselves, what they spoke were
their Brabant, West and East Flemish or Limburg dialects and a kind of
Dutch coloured heavily by those. French, however, was a clear and uniform
language. With all the prestige Flemish was lacking.

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