LL-L "Technica" 2009.04.14 (01) [E]

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From: Henno Brandsma <hennobrandsma at hetnet.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Technica" 2009.04.13 (04) [E]

From: Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. <roger.thijs at euro-support.be>

Subject: LL-L Technica

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When browsing web pages I often get squares in stead of characters.

I made a couple of printscreens (jpg files)and marked the squares:

Â

1 for http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_international_africain

I get http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/cong/wik1.jpg

Â

2 for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit

I get http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/cong/wik2.jpg

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Do other people get the same problem when retrieving these web pages?

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At least some people must be able to retrieve these pages correctly.

I appreciate all suggestions helping me out of this problem.

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Thanks,

Regards,

Roger



I see them correctly. What is the encoding that your browser uses? Change it
to unicode (under the tools or view menus I suppose)

and try both UTF-8 and UTF-16LE.



Henno


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From: Andy Eagle <andy at scots-online.org>
Subject: LL-L "Technica" 2009.04.13 (04) [E]

Roger wrote:

Subject: LL-L Technica

When browsing web pages I often get squares in stead of characters.



Probably has to do with browser settings and the fonts available on you
system.

I have some short advice on my website

http://www.scots-online.org/airticles/unicode.htm

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From: Kreimer-de Fries Joachim <soz-red at jpberlin.de>
Subject:

Am 14.04.2009, 02:11 Uhr, schrieb Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. <
roger.thijs at euro-support.be>
> When browsing web pages I often get squares in stead of characters. ...
> Do other people get the same problem when retrieving these web pages?
> I made a couple of printscreens (jpg files)and marked the squares:
> 1 for http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_international_africain
> I get http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/cong/wik1.jpg

Dag Roger & LL-L,

No problem here with Opera browser (neither with Safari) on Mac-OSX 10.4
with UTF-8 (hope the characters can be seen as I see them now):
____________________________
Caractères [modifier]minuscule
a       b       ɓ       c       d       ɖ       e       ɛ       ǝ       f
    ƒ       g       ɣ       h       x       i       j       k
majuscule
A       B       Ɓ       C       D       Ɖ       E       Ɛ       Ǝ       F
    Æ‘       G       Æ”       H       X       I       J       K
minuscule
l       m       n       ŋ       o       ɔ       p       r       s       ʃ
    t       u       v       Ê‹       w       y       z       Ê’
majuscule
L       M       N       Ŋ       O       Ɔ       P       R       S       Ʃ
    T       U       V       Ʋ       W       Y       Z       Ʒ
______________________________

> 2 for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit
> I get http://www.euro-support.be/tmp/cong/wik2.jpg

No problem in Safari with UTF-8 text encoding (hope you see it as I do when
writing):
________________________________________
Phonology and Sandhi
The Sanskrit vowels are as discussed in the section above. The long syllabic
l (ḹ) is not attested, and is only discussed by grammarians for systematic
reasons. Its short counterpart ḷ occurs in a single root only, kḷp "to
order, array". Long syllabic r (ṝ) is also quite marginal, occurring in the
genitive plural of r-stems (e.g. mātṛ "mother" and pitṛ "father" have
gen.pl. mātṝṇām and pitṝṇām). i, u, ṛ, ḷ are vocalic allophones of
consonantal y, v, r, l. There are thus only 5 invariably vocalic phonemes,

a, ā, ī, ū, ṝ.
Visarga ḥ ः is an allophone of r and s, and anusvara ṃ, Devanagari ं of any
nasal, both in pausa (ie, the nasalized vowel).  [...]

____________________________________________

But in Opera, even with UTF-8 there are problems on this page e. g. with the
last paragraf, where "Visarga ḥ ः " and "Devanagari ं " appeare as mere
squares.

HTH

Met echt-westfäälsken »Goutgaun!«
joachim
--
Kreimer-de Fries
Osnabrüg => Berlin-Pankow

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