LL-L "Language varieties" 2009.06.11 (01) [EN]

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From: Roger Hondshoven <rhondshoven at yahoo.com>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2009.06.10 (03) [EN]

Hello Diederik,

You wrote:" Roger: Ha! now you got me even more confused;-) so you mean
there are no -de endings, but instead you have -der for unaccented, and
instead of -degij just -t gij when more emphasised? "

I' sorry if I got you confused. Allow me to reiterate my statement in a
slightly different form, hoping it will be clearer this way.

we must distinguish between 2 inversed verbal forms in Getelands (except in
Tienen) :
a. the somewhat emphatic form *gade gij*, which is actually a mixed form:
'gade' being 2nd person singular combined with 'gij' which is in fact an
historical 2nd person plural pronoun. So there Weijnen got it wrong.
b. the weak form with -er, e.g. *doeder *'doe je', */göder/ *'ga je'. This
-er originated from *ir, German *ihr*, Old High German  *ir*, which is
clearly plural, and unmistakably an eastern element . In this cas Weijnen
hit the nail.

Gade is the inversed 2nd person form of 'gaan', consisting of the stem of
the verb ga + de. This form is not used as such in Melkwezers and, I guess,
anywhere else in the Geteland. We encounter the forms with -de in the more
emphatic form where it is  followed by the pronoun gij. Another example: komde
gij "kom jij?" As you can see it is a tautologocal construction.

Regards,

Roger Hondshoven
Diest (East-Brabant) Belgium

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