a question about non-standard Russian

Edward M Dumanis dumanis at ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU
Thu Apr 12 17:17:55 UTC 2001


On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Alina Israeli wrote:

> >Hello,
> >  I wonder if someone on this list will help me
> >regarding vernacular Russian.
> >  I am currently engaged in editing stenogrammes, recorded
> >at a workers' meeting that took place in Petrograd in January 1918,
> >and have come across several cases of a redundant pronoun in the
> >nominative case:
> >     Takoj obshirnyj gromadnyj apparat on dolzhen byl imet' trenija,..
> >
> >     Eti organizacii, kotoryja rodilis' pri byvshem uzhe otchasti
> >       kapitalisticheskom stroe, one v pervuju ochered' postavili
> >       svoej zadachej ob"edinenie rachochikh sil, konechno, v
> >       bor'be za uluchshenie svoego ekonomicheskago polozhenija.
> >
> >I looked in the grammar book wondering if there were explanations,
> >but no reference at all. I am familiar with this kind of redundant
> >pronoun in English on the British Isles and have a preconception
> >that this truly records what the speaker actually said.
> > Any pointers to good reference books are welcome. Thanks.
>
> O.B.Sirotinina in "Sovremennaja razgovornaja rech' i ee osobennosti"
> (Moscow, Prosveshchenie 1974) discusses the pleonastic use of pronouns on
> p. 112.
>
> Best,
> Alina
>
I have not read the aforementioned book, but I am absolutely sure that
the given examples are of what the speakers actually said because it is
what "stenogrammy" are supposed to do.

Sincerely,

Edward Dumanis <dumanis at acsu.buffalo.edu>

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