verification -- Khrushchev's appearances on TV

elenka elenka at UVIC.CA
Wed May 7 22:53:18 UTC 2003


Response to a message from Bill Derbyshire:

You have misunderstood my comment about verification. I did not ask about
verification of the incident itself. The discussion of the last few days has
brought out many interesting details about what happened and what did not
happen on Oct 12, 1960. My last message was about verifying the programs, ads,
films, etc. on American TV that reenacted the episode in the United Nations.
Since -- as became clear from the preceding discussion -- these TV appearances
of Khrushchev were "edited," I suggested we make a distinction between precise
memories of these appearances on TV (not quite documentary) and history
(whatever happened in the UN Assembly). All I said was that the recollections
you and other colleagues have of the 1960s are not "false memories" of history
but accurate memories of what was cultural history of the Cold War, history as
reflected and expressed on American TV.
My comment that made you lose your temper was: "We're dealing with precise
memories of cultural myths, not "false memories" of history. In the case of K.
[Khrushchev] cultural myths became part of the CW history."

Most respectfully,

Elena Baraban
elenka at uvic.ca


>===== Original Message From Slavic & East European Languages and Literature
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>I second what George Kalbouss wrote. He and I (and many others still
>alive and kicking) are "of a certain age", and we remember well seeing
>the images on the t.v. and in newspapers. Further, I have spoken with
>Russians still living in the USSR at that time who somehow had access
>to the story and  pictures. They too, while not Khrushchev admirers, were
>also horrified at the sight of their national leader making an ass of himself
>for the world to see.
>It's hard to imagine that anyone questions whether this incident took place
>or can be verified! Gimme a break!
>                                                             Bill Derbyshire
>
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