verification -- Khrushchev's appearances on TV

elenka elenka at UVIC.CA
Mon May 12 02:10:58 UTC 2003


Dear Mr. Derbyshire:

I have never suggested anyone who watched TV in the 1960s was "a victim" of
propaganda etc. (see your text below). And, of course, there hasn't been a
single message in this debate that intended to "defend K's boorish behavior"
as you write. The whole discussion hasn't been about "defending" or
criticizing anyone's behavior, don't you think?
Pozhaluista, ne peredergivaite. - íå ïåðåäåðãèâàéòå, ïîæàëóéñòà.
I very much appreciate the contributions of all our colleagues who
participated in the discussion. I personally do not think it has been a "silly
debate" as you write and I hope other colleagues did not think it was "silly".

Let me please once again express my gratitude to you and everyone else who
wrote on the subject. I mean it.

Yours,


Elena

>===== Original Message From Slavic & East European Languages and Literature
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>In a message dated 05/07/2003 3:57:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>elenka at UVIC.CA writes:
>
>> Response to a message from Bill Derbyshire:
>> You have misunderstood my comment about verification.
>>
>       No, I misunderstood nothing. What I find most amusing is the fact
>that you think that I was reacting to your letter. In fact, I never even read
>your posting! I jumped into this otherwise silly debate only when I noticed
>that there was a response from my old friend Prof. Kalbouss.
>
>> My comment that made you lose you temper was.......
>       My goodness! I was not aware that "I had lost my temper"!! The
>phrase "gimme a break" does not constitute a loss of temper.
>
>       What does bother me is your suggestion that this famous incident
>was "edited". Well, duh! Of course. Are not most TV and those old news
>film clips of the past edited? Books are edited, articles are edited, and so
>are any news broadcasts on the radio and on the TV. Perhaps you meant
>to say that the incident as shown was altered in some way through trick
>photography. Well, if that is so, then I can only suggest that you make
>an effort to track down some of that footage, or ideally find  a witness who
>was actually present when the shoe banging took place, since you seem
>to think that people like Prof. Kalbouss and I are the victims of memories
>on whom propaganda played some kind a trick.
>       My major concern here is that people not engage in historical
>revisionism
>of facts for whatever purpose. Why would anyone want to defend Khrushchev's
>boorish behavior in any case? And let us keep in mind that there are people
>out
>there who also deny the holocaust or the severity of the holocaust. This kind
>of
>debate, admittedly on a very minor scale, is a painful reminder of just that.
>                                     Wm. Derbyshire
>
>
>
>
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