Dostoevsky quote

[Donald Loewen]

I think that the formulation in Pt. 4, 2nd Book, ch. 4 (Gimn i sekret) is 
another possibility, because it does refer directly to God:

"Áåç áîãà-òî è áåç áóäóùåé æèçíè? Âåäü ýòî ñòàëî áûòü òåïåðü âñ¸ ïîçâîëåíî, 
âñ¸ ìîæíî äåëàòü?"

(“Bez boga-to i bez budushchei zhizni? Ved' eto stalo byt' teper' vse 
pozvoleno, vse mozhno delat'?”)

Don Loewen


At 01:35 PM 11/7/2003, you wrote:
>All,
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>Here is the quote (thanks to the online concordance
><http://netra.karelia.ru/bin/concor.orig?t=_k.html&f=karamaz/main>
>http://netra.karelia.ru/bin/concor.orig?t=_k.html&f=karamaz/main ) I tried
>to send this mulitple times, but SEELANGS kept saying it had images in it
>and wouldn't allow it.  You can find it for yourself at the above address,
>just search under pozvoleno.  It is from Brothers Karamazov Part 1, second
>book, Neumestnoe sobranie VII.
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>Michael Brewer
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Russell Valentino [mailto:russell-valentino at UIOWA.EDU]
>Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:08 PM
>To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU
>Subject: [SEELANGS] Dostoevsky quote
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>Dear Colleagues,
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>A student question brought to my attention a website,
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>http://www.tassos-oak.com/extras/soundbite.html, which is devoted to
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>showing the benefits of the internet in demonstrating how Dostoevsky never
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>actually wrote the phrase, "If God does not exist, everything is
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>permitted." Since most "great books" can now be found online, the argument
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>goes, "it is no longer necessary to propagate such errors, and writers of
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>honesty should no longer do so." There are many problems with this line of
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>argument, of course, but I'm more interested in the attribution of the
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>phrase itself.
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>As I understand it, the statement is not a quote but a paraphrase of Ivan's
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>claims (as relayed by Miusov) in Book II, Chapter 6 ("Zachem zhivet takoi
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>chelovek!") of the Brothers K: "... unichtozh'te v chelovechestve veru v
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>svoe bessmertie, v nem totchas zhe issiaknet ne tol'ko liubov', no i
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>vsiakaia zhivaia sila, chtoby prodolzhat' mirovuiu zhizn'. Malo togo: togda
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>nichego uzhe ne budet beznravstvennogo, vso budet pozvoleno, dazhe
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>antropofagiia" (pp. 64-5 of Vol. 14 of the 30 vol. Nauka ed.).
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>I am wondering, however, whether there is a more direct statement somewhere
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>else, not in the book as published perhaps, but in one of the notebooks or
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>drafts or in another source altogether.
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>Can anyone help with this?
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>Thanks in advance.
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>Russell Valentino
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