zvon'ish' vs zv'onish'

Nina Shevchuk n_shevchuk at YAHOO.COM
Fri Mar 10 18:41:16 UTC 2006


I wonder if there's a regional aspect to this issue. I'm a native speaker of Russian, but born in Ukraine, and I say it both ways. At the same time, to my ear the Moscow variety of Russian sounds distinctly accented. I also remember having a similar conversation with a Russian teacher in school about poniala (stressed o) and poniala (stressed last a), in which the teacher insisted that the latter was correct and dictionary-sanctioned, while the former (the more used version where I am from) is wrong.
   
  Have you checked dictionaries? Just curious.
   
  Nina Shevchuk-Murray

Sara Stefani <sara.stefani at YALE.EDU> wrote:
  When I was first learning Russian, I learned the verb as (po)zvonít':
(po)zvonyú, (po)zvonísh', etc., i.e., always end-stressed. Not long after I
arrived in Moscow, though, I noticed that a lot of Russians said zvónish',
zvónit, especially in the future perfect: pozvónish', pozvónit. I asked a
Russian friend about it, and she got very upset, saying that people do say
pozvónit but, she insisted most emphatically, that this was wrong, and that I
should always say (po)zvonísh'. So I do, but I wonder if that norm has changed
even more to tend towards pozvónish' in the ten years since I lived in Moscow?

ss

Quoting "Paul B. Gallagher" 
:

> Alina Israeli wrote:
>
>> The gender of "kofe" together with the stress in "zvonit" was one of the
>> pet peeves of the purists (for over a hundred years). If not for that the
>> gender would have changed long ago. No one is bothered that "pal'to" is
>> neuter (and not masculine any more) or that "voron ni zharjat ni varjat" is
>> no longer end-stressed (outside this rhyme).
>
> At least to my nonnative ear, it scans better as "vorón ni zháryat ni váryat."
>
> But my question is about zvonit'. I was taught zvonít', zvonyú,
> zvónish'... What's the controversy? Do some people say zvonísh'?
>
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