Kliuev-type names: pronunciation vs. transliteration

[Prof Steven P Hill]

Dear colleagues:

It's good to have clarification from experts of the poet Kliuev's surname.

Now I mention something peripheral to Paul Gallagher's principal 
question, which I think was directed at the PRONUNCIATION of this 
surname (as opposed to transliteration of it).

We've gotten expert testimony that it's pronounced [ KLJU - jif ].  I 
suppose the original query would have been slightly clearer, if Prof
Gallagher had enclosed the item in square brackets (assuming he 
was asking about pronunciation).  Linguists often use brackets (or
diagonals) to indicate pronunciation.

In some Russian names and words where -JO- is indeed pronounced, 
there can be a separate question,   namely,   how does one 
TRANSLITERATE such words and names?  This is a serious matter 
for, among others, library catalogers.    E.g.,  "Mr. Crane" (bird),  
which I think is pronounced [ zhu ra VLJOF ].  

In this instance, the 2d question (for catalogers, etc.)  would be: 
to transliterate the surname as "Zhuravlev" or as "Zhuravliov" or as 
"Zhuravl-(E with 2 dots over it )-v."    My impression is that many 
simply transliterate the vowel here as "plain E" ("Zhuravlev"), choosing 
to follow the common but unhelpful Russian practice of not indicating 
the [ JO ] pronunciation at all... 

Best wishes to everybody,
Steven P Hill,
University of Illinois.
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Date: Mon 7 May 02:19:56 CDT 2007
From: <LISTSERV at BAMA.UA.EDU>  
Subject: Re: GETPOST SEELANGS 
To: "Steven P. Hill" <s-hill4 at UIUC.EDU> 

Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:56:15 -0400
From: "Paul B. Gallagher" <paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM> 
Subject: To yo or not to yo? 

In the surname "Клюев" (Klyuyev), is the last syllable always, 
sometimes, or never "ё" ("yo")?
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Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 22:32:06 -0400
From: "Paul B. Gallagher" <paulbg at PBG-TRANSLATIONS.COM> 
Subject: Re: To yo or not to yo? 

Thanks to Alina Israeli (who wrote privately), Jack Franke, and Victoria 
Thorstens (who changed the subject but nevertheless concurred). It is 
not "yo." 

Paul B. Gallagher .
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